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bit of a long story so will try and keep it brief.

around a month ago my 13 year olds friend let her borrow her iphone as she had a new phone on contract. i expressed concerns due to the fact it was £350 on pay as you go, and my daughter simply isnt responsible enough. however both were adamant it was ok. stupidly maybe i should of put my foot down but didnt.

 

a few weeks ago my daughter gave her friend back the phone, but she didnt want it back and said she could buy it from her for £100. i told my daughter no. it went back and forth between the two.

 

the other night i got a call from the friends parents to say the phone had been lost and they wanted £350 from me. apparently they were all out and the phone was left on the bus. of course neither girls said anything at the time and i knew nothing about it.

 

from a personal view i feel they shouldnt have brought their daughter an iphone, plus they are also saying they have no insurance, as that was the first thing i asked. i am not prepared to fork out this kind of money and both girls are equally to blame. of course they are blaming each other. her parents are trying to say their daughter was being a good kind friend-well she didnt care one bit about the iphone and i dont feel i should be penalised.

 

morally i could agree to pay half, but have no proof phone was in my childs possession.financially i would rather not. but from alegal standpoint what is the position?

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Well if they were stupid enough to let their 13 year old daughter have and iphone valued at £350 and not insure it, then that's their problem.

 

It is unfortunate it got lost but as you say, it may not have been in your daughters possession at the time so I would not feel obliged to pay anything either!

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They would have to prove it was your daughter who was responsible for the phone at the time. As it's the word of one kid against another I don't think they'd get far.

 

I happen to agree with you that it's a ridiculous thing to give a 13 year old. They obviously had nothing better to do with £350. That sort of money feeds whole families for weeks so it's difficult to be sympathetic.

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Difficult one on the moral, legal is a non starter imo.

 

Seeing as this friend had offered the phone for £100, and the value of a second hand iphone is certainly not £350 then I think the request for this amount is ludicrous.

 

Still trying to work out why a 13 yr old has a PAYG iphone AND a contract phone.

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This wouldn't happen to be the iphone 3 by any chance, the one recently superceded by the iphone 4. As a mother of three (now grown up) children I'm beginning to smell a rat. Any 13 year old who had an iphone 3 wouldn't be seen dead with it now the 4 is out - it's so last month.

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A 13 year old is lucky to have a phone at all IMO let alone an iphone.

The above post constitutes my personal opinion on the facts in the post compared with my personal knowledge of the applicable legislation. I make no guarantees of its legal accuracy. If you are in doubt seek advice of a legal professional specialising in the area concerned.

 

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I agree completely ForestChav. I'm still highly suspicious that this particular iphone was lent, offered for sale and then 'lost' at the point it became all but valueless because of the new product launch. Nobody wants the old iphone.

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I agree completely ForestChav. I'm still highly suspicious that this particular iphone was lent, offered for sale and then 'lost' at the point it became all but valueless because of the new product launch. Nobody wants the old iphone.

Or nobody wanted it anyway hence they passed it between them like a hot potato. It is not surprising it got lost.

 

Though I have a 3GS but I'm not really one to go for e-penis on mobiles so I don't particularly want a 4...

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I would offer £50 as suggested just to keep the peace

 

Seems reasonable.

 

If they were going to sell it for £100, and both girls were equally responsible for the loss then £50 from a moral standpoint to keep the peace sounds fair.

 

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