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no doctor did nothing for us we decided to get a solicitor involved because the hospital admitted neglect then took the document out about where he admitted it was neglect, this is all neglect and hospitals cannot get away with it, we were taken into a room and spoken to be the top ITU doctor where he said how sorry he was that things were not done for my son and the hospital had let him down then he says he never said it

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he was put in the prone position for over 20 hours when they turned back supine his whole head was swollen and a massive black thing over his eye now after 6 monthes he has a massive scar his lip was slit into as well it was horrible to see it all my hubby had a stroke at his bedside when he saw our son in this state and all because of a chest infection

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no she hasnt shon us any letters she has sent to the hospital the document that came back liablilty & causation report we asked to see it she said no you cant it has nothing to do with you but we have the document now it came in by an email we are not supposed to see this but her secretary sent it by mistake

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But she is supposed to be acting for you!!!! I have just had something similar where something got sent to me by mistake and it changed my whole case, thank God.

 

I think you will need to start your own thread as this one is really for marysdoll's situation. Start one and put the link here and I will come over to your thread. I have also sent you a pm.

 

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ok thankyou how do i start a new thread please thanks

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where is the PM also roflmao

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sorry i posted on this thread new to this sorry again

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No probs. I think you have tried to pm me but it didn't come through.

 

To start your own thread: Go to the home page, then click on Consumer Forums and choose Consumer Action Group from the drop down menu. You will then go to Welcome to the Consumer forums and about three inches down on the left hand side you'll see "New Thread". Click on that and you can then post.

 

I'd probably call it "Son neglected in hospital, now has lung failure" or something like that. You'll get far more expert help than I can give but I'll do my best.

 

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Hi my son was in our local hospital, they didnt give him antibiotics for 5 days for a chest infection after aspirating twice, this turned to pneumonia, he was then moved to ITU, where he was dieing, we were then taken into a room with his nurse and the head of ITU he told us that my son was neglected and more should have been done for him he said how sorry he was about this and that he may lose his job because of what he has told us, he then said he wanted to air lift my son (something that was never done from this hospital), to a london specialist hospital as my sons lungs had failed his kidneys had failed and his liver WAS failing, he was flown to london where he remained in ITU for 7 weeks fighting for his life, when he was well enough he was transfered back to our local hospital where again we were taken in the same room with the same doctor he told us the conversation we had with him admitting the neglect had gone missing, we asked how my sons head had got like it did he said something went seriosuly wrong but went on to something else and we still cant find out what went wrong even today, we took this up with a very good solicitor and she got a report back which said " they had lost his notes from ITU, so what do we do now as the solicitor said there is no case with out NOTES

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my son has to use oxygen now and his lungs will never heal his head would is horrible a huge scar and scars on his lips as well hes 35 this year

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First of all have you or your solicitor made a formal complaint to the CEO of the hospital to ask if there was a clinical decision not to give anti-biotics to your son initially and what were the reasons for this? Notes or no notes, they should still be able to provide an explanation on what happened to your son unless it was years ago.

 

I am a little confused over the verbal admission of negligence by the doctor. If it was a conversation which occurred in the presence of a nurse, are they both denying it?

 

Have the notes from both hospitals been lost? All of them? Has your solicitor not been able to get any clarification on what happened?

 

How did your son get scarring on his head and lips?

 

Were you able to visit your son in the hospital he was air-lifted to and did any member of the medical profession advise you of what was wrong. Have you or your solicitor contacted the consultant that cared for him there?

 

Is your solicitor charging you or is it a no win no fee?

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You will need a solicitor to deal with this on a no win no fee basis.

 

Get a solicitor who specialises in medical negligence and get going now.

 

Make full notes of everything which has happened so far.

 

The loss of the notes is unhelpful but on the other hand it is in itslef a negligent act.

 

I am quite sure that it is no accident that the notes have been lost.


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The OP says they have a solicitor - my worry is that they are paying for this and seemingly getting nowhere fast.

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Then dump the solicitor and get another


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thats exactly what we are doing this week thanks

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the doctor who admitted neglect was the top man who runs the ITU and this happened october 09, when he was flown to london the london hospital took pics of my sons face i saw this myself, they also asked what happened to his head we said we dont know all we know is that our son was in prone position for over 20 hours as we saw this, when he was turned they said something went seriously wrong but they will not tell us what went wrong,

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the clinical negligence person who has read the notes that they have said there are no nursing notes about my son in ITU, so she cant say whether it was neglect or not as she has nothing to go on

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this is what the report said just a small part of the report, this was done by a nursing expert report, we have the nursing report to be somewhat unsatisfactory as it does not address the root cause analysis or the fact that the hospital did not perform pressure sore assesments as they should have done every day while he was in ITU my son was in ITU from 17th ocotober 09 to the 28th ocotober 09 then flown to london put on ecmo he remained in london for 7 weeks in ITU there

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Well if the hospital fail to provide answers, you really are only left with the option of litigation. I have lost count of the number of times I have heard of situations where hospital managers are quite prepared to extend the pain and suffering of patients and their families by failing to admit mistakes, apologise and compensate where appropriate. These cases can drag on for years and years and it is completely shameful on those involved, seemingly devoid of the basic principles of right and wrong and who act to protect their reputations and careers. Worse still, they seem never to be made accountable.

 

If you do end up in court you should get some answers, as long as the right witnesses are called,the right questions are asked and presuming they are not stupid enough to perjure themselves. It is more likely that the hospital will try to settle out of court if it looks likely to get that far. They would consider bad publicity a far greater concern than a maimed patient. I would be inclined to carry the action through, although you may be so worn out physically and mentally by this time, you'll just be happy to see an end to the whole sorry episode. I'm sure that this is part of the hospital's strategy.

 

Good luck. I think you have a very hard battle ahead.

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thankyou for your answer, we just want to know what happened to his head, and why they didnt swab him for swineflu, why he was left in prone for 20 hours, why they admitted neglect then retracted it,we need to know why he suffered so much and us as well i have to have counceling now as i cant cope its been so very hard for us as a family watching all this, it has to stop hospital hiding notes and removing papers, and i will take it to the papers although i doubt that it will get printed i tried to release it to the papers that my son had swineflu and they wouldnt even get back to me its a closed shop but we intent to go on till we get answers

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i have to pursue this because my son wants to know why he looks like this and on his return to the local hospital back ITU again a nurse approached him she said "oh im shocked to see you still here i was the one who found you my son said found me what do you mean the nurse said i found you in a non deployment position, so something did happen to him why cant they just say if it went wrong instead of lying this just makes it worse for them how many people has this happened to and have they got away with it its unfair and im so bloody angry

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These people will never admit to neglect as they do not want to loose their lucrateve jobs, which at the end of the day that is all that matters to them.

They are not in it for caring purposes. I am not sure if you can do a SAR and see with NHS but it would shows up what has been done.

 

It must be very stressful for you to cope with all of this it is bad enough when you see your son like this but having to cope with all fobbing off as well is dreadful

 

Look after yourself.

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These people will never admit to neglect as they do not want to loose their lucrateve jobs, which at the end of the day that is all that matters to them.

They are not in it for caring purposes. I object strongly to these comments. I am a nurse and work damm hard in my job which I enjoy. I care 100% plus for my job and those I care for. I'm sick to the back teeth of the public slagging us off. It's the goverment messing about with the NHS as a service that are at fault not the nursing staff. We are working under severe target setting by the government which unsustainable.

I am not sure if you can do a SAR and see with NHS but it would shows up what has been done.

 

It must be very stressful for you to cope with all of this it is bad enough when you see your son like this but having to cope with all fobbing off as well is dreadful

 

Look after yourself.

 

Glitterlady,

I feel desperately sorry for the position you and your son are in.

From your account of events I believe that your son was attmitted to your local hospital with a chest infection.

Did he have a chest X ray to prove this on admission to hospital?

What were his symptoms?

Did he have a high temperature......above 38C?

Did he have blood cultures and CRP taken with the temperature?

Does he have any underlying condition that would cause him to aspirate?

What did he aspirate?

 

So many questions but I don't understand why he was not treated for a chest infection which then caused his condition to deteriorate so drastically.

 

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I am sure you are a verfy good nurses and work very hard Nigh Owl, but you will agree that there is some that do not care whatsoever, this has been demonstrated in a panorama programm where elderly people were calling out for help but no one took any notice. One nurse was eating elderly patient’s meals while the patients went hungry what a disgrace.

 

A good nurse like yourself went into a hospital and took a video and it was shown on the BBC. She was sacked for her kindness, but the public was disgusted by that sacking therefore she was reinstated. I am sure you will know the hospital that I am referring to...

 

I have posting many links where elderly people are dreadfully neglected on this board.

 

 

I am getting near the age where I may have to go into hospital or a care home and I think I would rather be shot than to go into one of these places. :(

 

You will agree that there are many in care home where elderly people are neglected very badly as well.

 

It is a shame that good nurses like your self are tar with the same brush when it is the managers that are most at fault with their large salaries and could not care less about their patients in the hospitals that they are managing.

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