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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Thanks AC,

 

do you agree with Pumpytums? Shall I contact MNBA directly? Would they even respond as they aparently sold the debt to Link in 2000?

 

Haven't heard anything back from Link as yet, but, it hasn't been 14 days yet.

 

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Selena4, it would do no harm to make a FULL SAR to MBNA. However, you will most likely only obtain information for the last 6 years, with exception to the alleged credit agreement;

to receive information under section 7 of the DPA, takes at least 40 days form the date of receipt of the request by MBNA.

 

One can at least compare any docs. provided by MBNA to those docs. provided by Link under your CPR request.

 

Please advise us when you are in receipt of any of the documents that you requested from Link under your CPR request.

 

Also, keep a close eye on the date which you have to submit your (embarassed) defence: 28 days from receiving the Link Claim.

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Hi AC,

 

28 days tomorrow from the date of the court claim. Do I ask for a longer period, as I haven't got anything back from Link. However, the CPR request was signed for on 1 July 2010 & the letter dated 28 June 2010. So do I ask for an extension or submit embarased defence?

 

Regards Selena

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Submit the embarassed defence, as the particulars of claim do not adequately set out the case you are required to answer.

 

Also, apply to the court for an order compelling disclosure of the documents which you are entitled to and that the claimant must plead his case properly; form N244

 

[Emphasis] You must submit the embarassed defence tomorrow or, they will gain a default judgement;

the embarassed defence can be amended later.

 

Re: The embarassed defence, there is no need to go into long winded wording.

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Hi AC,

 

I managed to submit the embarassed defence, but after 4.00pm, hope this doesn't go against me!

 

Thanks for all your help you have given me, let's see what happens!!

 

Selena

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Hi Selena

 

As this is a MCOL Northampton you will have submitted your defence on line and therefore there is no time restriction as long as its on the date for submission.I trust you printed your receipt off after submission and retained as proof of input?

 

Think carefully before submitting any Application Notice (N244) this claim for all intense and purposes should be SCT after further investigations of your missing payments,which you will get chance to raise at AQ completion,therefore I personally would not waste the application fee of £75 for documents that you can request at AQ stage.

 

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Hi AC,

 

As yet not heard anythnig back from Link, even though it's past 14 day's. I submitted the embarassed defence, so just waiting to see what happens form here.

 

Also, Re: the monthly payments tha I did make to Link that they didn't acknowledge or certainly deduct according to the Court figure they quoted on the claim. I have got a letter from the my bank stating a monthly payment of £20.00 from August 2006, increased to £30.00 April 2007 - Decemebr 2009 was paid to Link.

 

Do you know what happens from here??

 

Regards Selena

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Link Financial's claim will be moved from the Northampton county court bulk centre to your local county court.

You will then receive an AQ (Allocation Questionaire).

 

Not necessarily AC, Selenas Defence will be forwarded to the Claimant for a response.They then have 28 days to respond (you will be informed of this Selena by Northampton}.

If the Claimant wishes to respond then it will be transfered to your local CC and AQs will be released.

If they fail to respond within the 28 days the claim is stayed.How long would be until the Claimant does respond and makes payment to resurrect the claim.

 

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Hi AC & Andy,

 

The Northampton Court sent me a letter stating my Defence has been past to Link and that they may contact me directly to reach an informal agreement!!!

 

They have 28 days to respond or the claim is Stayed. I'm worried now as my defence only stated that Link didn't respond to my resquest under CPR 31.14 and submitted an embarassed defence.

 

I'll spend the whole next 28 days worrying about the outcome!!!

 

Regards Selena

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Hi AC & Andy

 

I'm worried now as my defence only stated that Link didn't respond to my resquest under CPR 31.14 and submitted an embarassed defence. Thats the norm with link claims:D

 

 

I'll spend the whole next 28 days worrying about the outcome!!! Why ?

 

Regards Selena

 

 

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Hi Selena,

Sink did not provide you with any information before the deadline for you to file a proper defence. The POC supplied by Link is a vague and generic one they send to everyone.

 

Always remember it is for the Claimant to prove the case if they don't supply anything how can you disprove it? :D

 

Did you send your SAR to MBN@?

 

Next step Sink will send you their AQ and a letter saying that could you withdraw your defence and admit to it in full. Basically ignore.

 

One more thing you say it was sold to Sink in 2002, did you receive any letters in 2002 informing you of this or did they just say it was sold to them in 00/02 when they harassed you in 2006?

 

Have they mentioned a company called Link Outsourcing yet?

 

 

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Hi Pumpytums,

 

No Link haven't sent me anything or heard from them since my request under CPR 31.14.

 

I haven't sent an access request to MBNA as I don't even have a record of the acount with them, and the timescale with the court case pending.

 

Yes Link have previously mentioned a company called Link Outsourcing.

 

 

Regards Selena

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With regards to the SAR you don't need to mention account numbers, they should send you everything.

 

When Sink Outsourcing was mentioned was it in a context prior to 2009?

 

For example The debt was assigned to Link Financial outsourcing in 2002.

 

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I'm not sure if the debt was assigned to Link Financial or Link Financial Outsourcing, I think Link outsourcing in 2002. Are theses not the same companies???

 

But the letter I refer to is dated 25/05/2010 which mentions MBNA as the Originator.

 

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If they say it was assigned to Link Financial outsourcing LTD in 2002 this could be very useful as that company didn't exist until 2009. So how can a debt be assigned to a company that didn't exist until 7 years latter.

 

This is Sinks latest ploy they try for s69 interest which runs from when it was assigned to judgement. If the debts quite old the interest can be substantial. You do have to question why they didn't take action sooner though. It's just their latest game.

 

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Thanks for your help Pumpytums.

 

The interest is huge!! That's why i've finally came on here to seek help & everyone has been very helpful. Finally seems as if i'm getting somewhere with this but, the prospect of Court is worrying.

 

See what happens from here, Link were given 28 days last week, once my defence was placed. But they have responded to my request, which was sent recorded delivery & was signed for.

 

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