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    • The problem is that each time you have given them notice, you have then continued which effectively nullifies the notice. I agree that you have given them enough notice – but each time the notice is effectively cancelled because you continue not standing by your word. I hope you can start to see that when you state a position and then you move the position, you simply lose credibility and effectively you have to begin again. You need to put everything beyond doubt and so you should send the letter which I've suggested.  If you have some partner or someone who was also getting involved then I think that you had better make sure that you are communicating well with each other and that it is agreed that somebody is taking the lead. Otherwise, the left hand will not know what the right hand is doing and it will only be when you find yourself in court and defending a claim for an administrative fee or a council contract that it then comes back to bite you in the bum – both of your bums.. You must give notice in order to protect your position. Very sorry, but the letter which was sent was reckless. Send a letter which I have suggested giving seven days notice and a 14 day backstop for completing the work. Of course there was always one danger and that is that you could give notice, they then start the work within the notice period – and then it starts to dawdle along and take too long. However, giving them 14 day backstop to actually have the work completed should protect your position. Send the letter now. Also calculate if you are within 120 days of the date that you made the payment on your debit card – and if you did then begin a chargeback with your bank. If it's longer than 120 days then you will be able to do the chargeback and then maybe the best thing to do is to write it off – unless they decide to see you and in that case you can make a counterclaim.     This is all very well, but once again you state a position and then you don't follow it through. How can anyone take you seriously?
    • Lookinforinfo, these are two separate letters for two separate tickets, one 07.02.19 and one 03.08.19.   karel, I've added the post code to the thread title to identify the car park better.  It would be helpful if you could edit the sticky, you don't know when the NTKs arrived as you never received them.   The good news is that these debt collectors have no power so you can sit back, relax and ignore their drivel.   In the long term though you might want to consider sending a SAR to Horizon to find out what they originally sent and maybe work out why you never received it.
    • Just in addition, in the beginning we made it very clear we didn't want the work carried out during Autumn and winter, we have a young child at home and are not prepared to put his health at risk.. Also as we had said, to go beyond the specified dates is not feasible as one of the builders has already returned home and the other one has already stayed longer than planned so to start it now wouldn't be an option.
    • it's not a violation, it's a speculative invoice for breaking some imaginary contract the driver made with ECP by driving onto the land.   Enterprise are breaking contract law by charging you £35 as they did not enter into the contract the £35 is a penalty admin and as such is unlawful .   pers i'd go do a chargeback to your bank. they have no legal right to charge anything. all they are required to do is inform the PPC of the ID of tthe driver...you that does not cost £35!! more like 50p    
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Hi I just some advice needed on behalf of my girlfriend really, she was made bankrupt on 31st March 2008, since then every thing debt wise seems to have been resolved except 1 debt (which was listed) Lloyds TSB, about 12 months ago we started receiving letters from a co. called moorcroft these people were chasing a debt of around £575.85, both me and my girlfriend called them and explaind about bankruptcy but they said they "needed proof" since then we have sent it off but on the 3rd may 2010 she has received another letter this time from DEBT MANAGERS LTD threatening court action for the amount to be sued £856.32. Has anyone any advice on what to say to these idiots?? as i have already told them about the bankruptcy but they are persisting. please help.

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Let them take you to court...you have an absolute defence and it will cost them money.

In her situation there is nothing they can do so i would ignore everything that comes unless it really bothers her then just send of the case number together with the harassment letter from the templates section.

Of course I will pay you everything you say I owe with no proof.

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Just leaving it would be my approach but wasnt sre if they could put some sort of bad mark against my address as they say they have recently tracked her down to living here, ( which i must say is sheer brilliance on their part as we have lived and been on the electoral role for just over 2 years now) sorry for being thick but where is the templates section:(

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The CoUrt Will Want To Know Why You Did Not Give Them The Oppertunity To Close The Account And You May End Up With Costs Awarded Against You

 

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Just leaving it would be my approach but wasnt sre if they could put some sort of bad mark against my address as they say they have recently tracked her down to living here, ( which i must say is sheer brilliance on their part as we have lived and been on the electoral role for just over 2 years now) sorry for being thick but where is the templates section:(

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/resources/templates-library

 

Click on that and then click on http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/resources/templates-library/52-harassment

 

As for them putting a marker against the address, they won't, it is the person who is defaulted not the property.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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If this was included in the bankruptcy do you have any official paperwork showing it as such, or can you get some - this should shut them up.

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The only person entitled to your Personal Finance details is a Judge not a DCA

 

Move all banking activity to another banking group if you have a dispute - your funds can be used to offset debts within the same group.

Be careful with Banking details (card/account numbers) as these can be used to take unauthorised payments.

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