THE Election - Made your mind up yet ??

[Fred Bassett]

OK this is an issue around only Theresa May. I personally think politicians don't live in the real world and need to try "real life" before they comment. Can we move from the homophobic issue? I'm sure there are bigots on both sides of the fence at any rate! There is plenty more to pick on from the ConDem's about I'm sure

 

One issue close to my heart is the "political reform" that the Lib Dems had put forward (and this seemed to be a key issue for the coalition)

 

So, here is what the coalition has put forward:-

 

 

Personally I don't think "Alternative vote" goes far enough, and I am disappointed (but not surprised!) at the Lib Dems for accepting this.

Check this link BBC News - Q&A: Electoral reform and proportional representation

Now if you compare "1st past the post" with "Alternative vote" you will see that it only benefits the lib dems (as they have positioned themselves at the middle of the road, and so they would be the party chosen by "compromise"). It lowers the Conservatives and the Labour Party. What the people really need is "Single Transferable Vote" or "proportional representation." That would give the voters who live in a "stronghold" and don't like the party with the "stronghold" a reason to vote!

 

OK enough from me on that one. Leave it for someone else to chew over

 

P.S. Alternative Vote is the one that labour was going to go for aswell, so looks like that is as far as we the voters were going to get

 

Of course, we could go for the famous 'Euro' system of voting which goes along the lines of:

 

1) This is how we want you to vote. If you vote the wrong way, we'll make you do it again until you get it right.

 

or

 

2) We promise the British people a vote.

3) Only kidding. Best just sign on the dotted line without consulting the British people because Britain can't be pushed around like Ireland.

[locutus]

Well... we have been promised a referendum on the alternative vote! Lets make sure that goes ahead before commenting on the europe thing

 

As I've said before, I'm in a Labour stronghold and did not & will not vote for them as I feel the children in my area are let down. It's a constituancy full of former mining village so you can imagine the chances of a tory getting in here! So, should I even bother voting? Not under the current system!

[angry cat]

Thailand, I meant no disrespect to you or, anybody;

just voicing my opinion to which I am entitled.

As you are yours.

 

However, I maintain that 16 is too young to make the decision about being, gay and;

teenage boys could be putting their health at risk, risk of HIV etc.

 

Not going off topic, as I believe this matter has recently been discussed by MP's.

 

Incidentally, I used to work in the 'Art' associated industry, therefore in my every day life I encountered both homosexual and heterosexual people.

[angry cat]

Of course, we could go for the famous 'Euro' system of voting which goes along the lines of:

 

1) This is how we want you to vote. If you vote the wrong way, we'll make you do it again until you get it right.

 

or

 

2) We promise the British people a vote.

3) Only kidding. Best just sign on the dotted line without consulting the British people because Britain can't be pushed around like Ireland.

 

Oh yes, please can we move on Fred:)

[angry cat]

The only way forward is a Referendum!

 

Something that was denied to us re: The Lisbon Treaty?

[Thailand]

Thailand, I meant no disrespect to you or, anybody;

just voicing my opinion to which I am entitled.

As you are yours.

 

You most certainly are.

 

However, I maintain that 16 is too young to make the decision about being, gay and;

teenage boys could be putting their health at risk, risk of HIV etc.

 

OK, you'll never work out there is no decision. You also feel that HIV is contracted out of being gay. If only you knew how your are tapping on the fence of being out of order now.

 

Not going off topic, as I believe this matter has recently been discussed by MP's.

 

Link please, and whatever, yours or their assertions hold no water with me.

 

Incidentally, I used to work in the 'Art' associated industry, therefore in my every day life I encountered both homosexual and heterosexual people.

 

So??!! At no stage have I attempted to mock your rightful opinion, but good grief, how does that claim make one iota of difference? Especially in view of your latest mis-informed claims.

 

I feel I am now taking this further off topic, but my word, is it any wonder.

 

We should just agree to disagree.

[Desperate Daniella]

My best friend who died last year was gay. He had a mixture of straight and gay friends. We all got on very well together. Never even thought about it - we were all friends. We had a lot of giggles. Over 500 people attended his funeral. He was loved. No-one gave a flying f**k that he was gay. He had been thinking about adoption. Everyone would have supported him.

 

My boss in my longest job - many years - was gay, and so were his friends. Never even thought about it - apart from the funnies. Oh, I am a dizzy queen, he'd say frequently. His boyfriends wandered in and out of the office. I got on with all of them.

 

In my street there are three gay couples. I know two of them very well. We have a very friendly street. They are just everyone's neighbours, just like the rest of us. One couple have a child who is a credit to them.

 

None of them carry on like you do, Thailand. I'm sorry you have had such misery to deal with, but there are millions of gay people who are not suffering the same angst as you clearly are, and who aren't looking for a homophobic slant in everything other people say. If you aren't, I apologize, but it does come across like that.

 

No doubt you will now say that my friendships and experiences and therefore lack of homophobia have nothing to do with it, as you have said to AC.

[Fred Bassett]

Well... we have been promised a referendum on the alternative vote! Lets make sure that goes ahead before commenting on the europe thing

 

Well Brown's gone so it will happen - the others won't be that dishonourable.

[angry cat]

by Thailand:

...You also feel that HIV is contracted out of being gay."

 

No, of course not!

but the added rsik is there for teenage boys/young men, as well as other diseases. (perhaps HPV also?)!

 

I note that, Dr. Julian Lewis MP has been ticked off by his comments on the matter by DC; not politically correct, perhaps for the Tory Party?

 

To be honest, anything that I say further on this matter will get me into deep water...

[angry cat]

My best friend who died last year was gay. He had a mixture of straight and gay friends. We all got on very well together. Never even thought about it - we were all friends. We had a lot of giggles. Over 500 people attended his funeral. He was loved. No-one gave a flying f**k that he was gay. He had been thinking about adoption. Everyone would have supported him.

 

My boss in my longest job - many years - was gay, and so were his friends. Never even thought about it - apart from the funnies. Oh, I am a dizzy queen, he'd say frequently. His boyfriends wandered in and out of the office. I got on with all of them.

 

In my street there are three gay couples. I know two of them very well. We have a very friendly street. They are just everyone's neighbours, just like the rest of us. One couple have a child who is a credit to them.

 

None of them carry on like you do, Thailand. I'm sorry you have had such misery to deal with, but there are millions of gay people who are not suffering the same angst as you clearly are, and who aren't looking for a homophobic slant in everything other people say. If you aren't, I apologize, but it does come across like that.

 

No doubt you will now say that my friendships and experiences and therefore lack of homophobia have nothing to do with it, as you have said to AC.

 

Agree DD!

 

Not sure what ALL the fuss is about?

Looks like I have upset some?

Not intentional:(

 

For my part, I was just trying to speak up for the "women" whose lives have been torn apart by cancer.

 

If my word's upset anyone, I am sorry!

[Thailand]

My best friend who died last year was gay. He had a mixture of straight and gay friends. We all got on very well together. Never even thought about it - we were all friends. We had a lot of giggles. Over 500 people attended his funeral. He was loved. No-one gave a flying f**k that he was gay. He had been thinking about adoption. Everyone would have supported him.

 

My boss in my longest job - many years - was gay, and so were his friends. Never even thought about it - apart from the funnies. Oh, I am a dizzy queen, he'd say frequently. His boyfriends wandered in and out of the office. I got on with all of them.

 

In my street there are three gay couples. I know two of them very well. We have a very friendly street. They are just everyone's neighbours, just like the rest of us. One couple have a child who is a credit to them.

 

None of them carry on like you do, Thailand. I'm sorry you have had such misery to deal with, but there are millions of gay people who are not suffering the same angst as you clearly are, and who aren't looking for a homophobic slant in everything other people say. If you aren't, I apologize, but it does come across like that.

 

No doubt you will now say that my friendships and experiences and therefore lack of homophobia have nothing to do with it, as you have said to AC.

 

That's the thing, isn't it. You have me defined - yet are a million miles away! No offence, but you are indeed off on one. It's just what you see. You think I'm on some sort of mission, which, I might add, I half don't blame you since you know how anti-catholic I am. BUT, no - your wrong, DD. Don't judge my 'angst' honey, I just don't like comments such as 'I think NOT' and thoughts of HIV (which are always aimed at gays no matter what excuse comes up)

 

I am sorry about my 'misery' but I think you confuse my frustration with what has been said.

 

Such a lovely story though.

 

Still, 'None of them carry on like me' WOW. Here was I thinking I was just defending 'orrible misgivings about HIV which won't be deleted?

 

You don't know me at all, and nor do I know you, so lets stick to the facts of what have ben said. Maybe you should read AC's posts again, but, I fear it is lost on you.

[angry cat]

Oh Dear,

 

Off to my bed, fed up with all of this!

 

That is the trouble often with the written word; misconstrued meaning's...

 

Speak to someone, face to face;

debate and then just maybe, one can put one's true thoughts across?

[Thailand]

'misconstrued'

 

You said it out loud?

 

I never wanted to argue with you, but you said what you said. It was offensive and wrong, to me.

[Thailand]

And if you are so fed up, maybe you should stop making wrong statements about people.

 

Just an observation.

[angry cat]

Tories deal caused offence: Clegg - AOL News

[angry cat]

Step in to tackle yobs, says new Home Secretary Theresa May - Telegraph

[SOD'EM]

The only way forward is a Referendum!

 

Something that was denied to us re: The Lisbon Treaty?

 

 

 

There's a bar in our town centre called The Lisbon, very popular with the gay community:p

[MONX]

Sexuality is not a life choice, you cannot choose to be gay, straight, ?, bi etc. The sooner we all recognise that the better.

 

In my opinion there should be parity between the age of consent, if it is lawful for straight teenagers at 16 then it should be for gay, ? and bi teenagers.

 

Hiv is an issue for people of all sexualities as is any other sexually transmitted disease.

 

The allocation of resources for IVF treatment should be decided on fairness and not dependant on the decision maker's religious beliefs, sexuality or moral standpoint.

 

Just thought I would throw my two penneth in.

[Thailand]

Sexuality is not a life choice, you cannot choose to be gay, straight, ?, bi etc. The sooner we all recognise that the better.

 

In my opinion there should be parity between the age of consent, if it is lawful for straight teenagers at 16 then it should be for gay, ? and bi teenagers.

 

Hiv is an issue for people of all sexualities as is any other sexually transmitted disease.

 

The allocation of resources for IVF treatment should be decided on fairness and not dependant on the decision maker's religious beliefs, sexuality or moral standpoint.

 

Just thought I would throw my two penneth in.

 

Thank you. You managed to say concisely what I was trying to say.

 

Btw AC, I assume '? or homosexual' was a mistake.

[angry cat]

Millions to be spared income tax - Daily Finance UK

[Rooster-UK]

THE Election - Made your mind up yet ??

 

 

[Bookworm]

Millions to be spared income tax - Daily Finance UK

There's a title that only tells 1/2 the story...

"But while the parties have pledged to make a "substantial increase" to the personal allowance from April 2011, they are not expected to raise it to £10,000 in one go"

"Tax experts are predicting VAT will be increased in the emergency Budget, probably from 17.5% to 20%"

 

Oh, and while we're at it:

 

March 24, Osborne says: "Labour's NI increase is a tax rise on working people."

 

Now: Coalition statement reveals no reverse in 1% National Insurance rates rise for workers.

 

Hmmm... I think their spin doctors are doing quite enough with the propaganda, AC, no need to repeat it, I'd suggest checking the facts behind the spin, or you'll end up with no more credibility than them. ;-)

 

 

Edit: Forgot to add that retirement age is planned to be increased to 66, though not straight away. Thank you, that hits my husband just right, he'll have to work longer than planned!

Edited May 15, 2010 by Bookworm

[Fred Bassett]

There's a title that only tells 1/2 the story...

"But while the parties have pledged to make a "substantial increase" to the personal allowance from April 2011, they are not expected to raise it to £10,000 in one go"

"Tax experts are predicting VAT will be increased in the emergency Budget, probably from 17.5% to 20%"

 

Oh, and while we're at it:

 

March 24, Osborne says: "Labour's NI increase is a tax rise on working people."

 

Now: Coalition statement reveals no reverse in 1% National Insurance rates rise for workers.

 

Hmmm... I think their spin doctors are doing quite enough with the propaganda, AC, no need to repeat it, I'd suggest checking the facts behind the spin, or you'll end up with no more credibility than them. ;-)

 

 

Edit: Forgot to add that retirement age is planned to be increased to 66, though not straight away. Thank you, that hits my husband just right, he'll have to work longer than planned!

 

Well the new government has a bit of a mess to sort out that it didn't create. You can blame it on who you like but you can't blame it on the Lib Dems or the Conservatives. It has to be sorted out and we all knew that whoever got in, taxes would have to rise.

Edited May 15, 2010 by Fred Bassett

[angry cat]

by Booky:

" AC, no need to repeat it, I'd suggest checking the facts behind the spin, or you'll end up with no more credibility than them."

 

Err?

 

I simply came across the article on AOL and thought it of interest to members.

Nothing more, nothing less!

[Fred Bassett]

by Booky:

" AC, no need to repeat it, I'd suggest checking the facts behind the spin, or you'll end up with no more credibility than them."

 

Err?

 

I simply came across the article on AOL and thought it of interest to members.

Nothing more, nothing less!

 

!!!