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    • Hi welcome to the Forum.  If a PCN is sent out late ie after the 12th day of the alleged offence, the charge cannot then be transferred from the driver to the keeper.T he PCN is deemed to have arrived two days after dispatch so in your case, unless you can prove that Nexus sent the PCN several days after they claim you have very little chance of winning that argument. All is not lost since the majority of PCNs sent out are very poorly worded so that yet again the keeper is not liable to pay the charge, only the driver is now liable. If you post up the PCN, front and back we will be able to confirm whether it is compliant or not. Even if it is ok, there are lots of other reasons why it is not necessary to pay those rogues. 
    • Hi 1 Date of the infringement  arr 28/03/24 21:00, dep 29/03/24 01.27 2 Date on the NTK  08/04/2024 (Date of Issue) 3 Date received Monday 15/04/24 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012?  Yes 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No  7 Who is the parking company? GroupNexus 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Petrol Station Roadchef Tibshelf South DE55 5T 'operating in accordance with the BPA's Code of Practice' I received a Parking Charge letter to keeper on Monday 15/04/24, the 17th day after the alleged incident. My understanding is that this is outside the window for notifying. The issue date was 08/04/2024 which should have been in good time for it to have arrived within the notice period but in fact it actually arrived at lunchtime on the 15th. Do I have to prove when it arrived  (and if so how can I do that?) or is the onus on them to prove it was delivered in time? All I can find is that delivery is assumed to be on the second working day after issue which would have been Weds 10//04/24 but it was actually delivered 5 days later than that (thank you Royal Mail!). My husband was present when it arrived - is a family member witness considered sufficient proof?
    • lookinforinfo - many thanks for your reply. It would be very interesting to get the letter of discontinuance. The court receptionist said that the county court was in Gloucester 'today' so that makes me think that some days it is in Gloucester and some days its in Cheltenham, it was maybe changed by the courts and i was never informed, who knows if DCBL were or not. My costs were a gallon of petrol and £3.40 for parking. I certainly don't want to end up in court again that's for sure but never say never lol. Its utterly disgusting the way these crooks can legally treat motorists but that's the uk for you. I'm originally from Scotland so it's good that they are not enforceable there but they certainly still try to get money out of you. I have to admit i have lost count of the pcn's i have received in the last 2 yr and 4 months since coming to England for work, most of them stop bothering you on their own eventually, it was just this one that they took it all the way. Like i mentioned in my WS the the likes of Aldi and other companies can get them cancelled but Mcdonalds refused to help me despite me being a very good customer.   brassednecked - many thanks   honeybee - many thanks   nicky boy - many thanks    
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Yeah seen that cheers, but without going into detail and confusing people, that isn't Law, it's simply legislation, there is a very big difference between Lawful and Legal. Which is why I laugh at their own confusion using both words in their letters.

 

Agreed middxx, communicating with them simply flags you up as needing attention..

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Yea i understand what you are getting at. However, they seem to blur the meaning of both when talking about the tv license.

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Yes, I even see it on the news, where they use legal and lawful in the same sentence, with that kind of education, no wonder people are confused by the terms.

Still, letter number 15 through the post yesterday, the same idle threats.

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Thats the thing, you dont have to pay it. Theres no actual law that says you MUST. It's institutional brainwashing at its finest. They have even got Joe public on their side. "The licence fee is the law.I must pay the licence fee, so if others don't it's not fair. Therefore, i must call others out."

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This is definitely a very emotive subject, I was called a 'parasite' by a BBC supporter, who seriously believed that by my not paying the BBC had somehow pushed up the price of the piece of paper he paid for, no amount of trying to educate him could convince him he was being conned.

 

Been brainwashed for too many years poor thing!

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In the 1960s the Regiment (47) and the lads had numerous TVs in the Barrack Rooms which we hired individually some times, the Licencing people tried to charge the Regiment for each unit, a court case then envolved at Durham County Court If I remember properly (that it was Durham), our argument was that we only had one Aerial and distributed to individual sets, the case by the licencing authorities they lost. we won.

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Your not referring to 47 Regt R.A are you? My old unit....

TVL were never allowed on the camp when I was there, they would always be turned away at the gate as the RSM wouldn't let them on...

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Your not referring to 47 Regt R.A are you? My old unit....

TVL were never allowed on the camp when I was there, they would always be turned away at the gate as the RSM wouldn't let them on...

 

 

New you would catch on yep 47 RA you were there later.

 

The hirers submitted details of TV set hired and letters arrived to indivuduals.

if I remember correctly.

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Good ole 47, pull up a sandbag (swing the lamp!)

 

1990-2007, each mess had one for their accommodation and the Naafi, that was it, PADs Qtrs were dependent on whether they actually believed the hype in the letters, unless of course the Qtrs were outside of the wire.

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When I was associated with TV licensing, back in the '70's, when it was done "properly", not as it is today, Military Bases, Schools, Hospitals, Electricity/Gas/Water Board premises, were all "off limits".

 

Simple answer - they were Crown Property, and exempt from a receiving licence - strictly speaking, patients in Hospitals, who had their own TV's [in private wards], were not, but it would have been too much hassle to sort 'em out, so we sailed straight past.

 

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I got a letter from these idiots this morning, telling me if i didnt pay immediately they will send someone to my door. So glad i found this site.

 

All this for the whopping sum of £16.80.

 

They are welcome to send some jobsworth out and he will be sent packing.

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Have you just missed a payment?

 

The BBC are very apt at farming out their responsibilities, if you have just missed a payment, add it onto the end of your payment plan, ignore idiot iQor, they aren't even worth responding to.

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I know it is pathetic isn't it.....just add the missed payment on to the end of the agreement, don't double up the next payment, there is nothing they can do.

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i missed 2weeks,im just going to continue paying it at paypoint and add they arrears to that. seems they are quick off the mark sending out these letters,its not like i owe 1000s of pounds.

 

Its a yearly bill, pay what you like when you like & take no notice of there threats. Have you ever given any thought of going license free , don`t watch live feeds just catch up TV . I am so glad i dumped TV from my life but Mrs Middxx took a lot longer to make the break, our lives are better for it. We do far more activities together , we attend martial art training classes & we bought a canoe for little adventures.My wife still watches her girly shows but has given up on soaps .

someone once called TV, the " class nipple " i believe TV has been a mild part of social engineering for some time now, people will vote in their millions for shi*e like Big brother or X factor but try getting them to a polling station to vote on matters that directly affect their lives.

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Quite agree, a lot of nonsense for a few quid! Ignore them, just carry on with paying at the pay point and add some to it each week and try and catch up, even if they cancel the card as when you make the payment again you activate the card afresh and your payments start again. I am always falling behind as I find it hard to keep up, but normally catch up, and they also have my records wrong. After a couple of totally useless calls on the phone decided never to call them again. I now use the email to make any complaints and attempt to sort out. Last time did not get anywhere but suddenly found myself with a correct payment schedule rather than the outrageous one they sent out last year. Now had a letter from IQOR and did not even know it was a debt collection agency, but once I did, ignored them as they have no powers whatsoever.

 

The person on the phone has no authority to tell you that you will get a fine of £1000, that is outrageous. They only proceed if you do not keep up with regular payments and have not paid for some time, and they have to send an agent first, they have to gain permitted entrance into the house and you have to have been coned into making a statement and even then they may decide not to the first time. If one comes out, do not open the door to them and do not let them in or tell them anything; you do not have to! I also think that even if they take you to court that you may have a case as you have tried to make payments and tried to get them to accept payments. The fine is a max of £1000, and is what the court decides. If you do not have the means to pay any fine they have to agree that you can do so over time and agree a payment with you. You may also be able to ask the court to help with an agreement to cover your arrears. However, court action is a last solution and nothing to do with the do do on the phone.

 

Keep paying on the card and try and bring yourself up to date if you can. If not then go and see the CAB.

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