Advent Computer Training (Barclays Partner Finance)Info and discussion thread

[MARTIN3030]

There are different circumstances-for example payments that are made to third parties.

We should have more info once we have had chance to look at the complete picture.

[Steelio]

Ok thanks will check tomorrow

[Steelio]

i know what you mean, she was all "i'm sorry to say but this is for west midlands only" Well how is that going to help manchester, leeds, london, scotland and so on! We need this on Granada news/BBC News anyone got any plans?

 

 

Hi I'm from Carlisle. What about contacting your local MP surely if enough people do it may be raised in parliament. We have got to stop the rip off mentality in this country! This has the potential to ruin a lot of decent hard working people it is unjust.

Edited January 29, 2010 by Steelio

[MARTIN3030]

They wont be allowed to get away with it-dont worry.

Its likely that the OFT and possibly even the FSA will be preparing statements advising people of their recourse.

The FOS website will also be worth taking a look at-although if the past is anything to go by.......

[DAVEMCRAVE]

Ive paid my deposit (off my bank card), on 7th of jan, received my agreement, which i HAVE NOT signed, and DIDNT return (as lucky for me i was very lazy). and have not received anything at all. i have enrolled with advent as such but havent signed, no credit agreements,nothing. i had a direct debit set up to anglo captial or who ever they are. which is now cancelled,

 

Does me not signing the form entail i am not liable or entered into the agreement? i have been on the phone to the C A B and they seem to think that.

 

shed any light?

 

 

 

I really feel for everyone whos lost out here.

[whitie666]

Ive paid my deposit (off my bank card), on 7th of jan, received my agreement, which i HAVE NOT signed, and DIDNT return (as lucky for me i was very lazy). and have not received anything at all. i have enrolled with advent as such but havent signed, no credit agreements,nothing. i had a direct debit set up to anglo captial or who ever they are. which is now cancelled,

 

Does me not signing the form entail i am not liable or entered into the agreement? i have been on the phone to the C A B and they seem to think that.

 

shed any light?

 

 

 

I really feel for everyone whos lost out here.

 

 

Ok mate when did you start this course this sounds kinder funny....

 

i also thought Anglo Capital Ltd changed there name a while back also funny!

 

do you by anychance have any contact info for these people i was also to lazy to send that info back aswell :/ but i thought i was ok because payment have been takern out

 

you will not get your deposit back i dont think tho depending on when they took it you maybe able too

[DAVEMCRAVE]

7th jan this year, im not bothered a out my deposit, thats up in smoke, i just want to know that im not going to be paying the 6 k back over 4 years considering i signed no agreement.

[DAVEMCRAVE]

and only payed my deposit,and received nothing.

[whitie666]

I am not sure where you stand here

 

if you are you may still be able to cancle the course within the time limit but good luck with getting into contact with advent here

 

If you are not able to concle your stuck with Anglo ive spent the last 2 days trying to find contact info with no luck

[whitie666]

limit is 14 days btw the way i think you have missed the cancling

 

nexted step is anglo

 

barclay cumtermors seems to stand a good chance of something ok compared to some other storys ive heard

[belfastboy]

Hi there as this is abit of a nightmare for alot of people is there many of you who has cancelled there direct debit with barclays??

[HSBCrusher]

Would I be right in saying that the INSTITUTE OF IT TRAINING is the awarding body on this course?

if students have already taken some form of assessment there should be some unit accreditation I would have thought.

 

The situation as I see it is that the training provider has gone bust and now enrolled students will have lost access to the training/assessment but I cant see where barclays come into this.. other than they have pulled the plug on the business. I'm sure the training provider's bank wouldnt be liable for the unfinished qualifications.

 

However.. if the students are competent I cant see why they cant take the exam elsewhere, would it be possible just to pay an exam fee? I assume the qualification is on the qualification framework and not just a "college certificate"?

[DINKY_2010]

As I've said before I am not happy to be fobbed off with another training provider.

 

We should have the choice, this is totally unethical and surely Barclays deciding what happens here is a conflict of interest!

 

The Directors must have seen signs for this, and it is disgusting they were still letting people sign up.

 

I signed up a while ago, but due to personal circumstances had to postpone me starting the course properly and never even gone to a workshop etc where I have incurred costs etc.

 

We all have to stick together on this one!!

[whitie666]

The stuff we have learnt is no longer worth anything to us... have to do it all over again.. The stuff we have payed for like books and certs are not longer worth anything to us so being charged is bs!

 

Those of you that did us the mentor service that got something other than

" we are not techinal support we cant help you"

 

Is now all for nothing the service that we payed for we havent got..

 

See it from this way i want to cancle the course and il only pay you for the books i got and the mentor service the rest am not paying... would this work.? ( just incase your wondering no it wouldnt. Pay up.!)

 

forgive grammer i cant be bothered to change any of it...

[DINKY_2010]

I know it all comes down to the contract etc but can't we argue it as an unfair, unethical contract!!?!? As far as I am concerned - a replacement is unacceptable!

[HSBCrusher]

As far as I can see, if they have gone bust thats the end of the road for getting certificates from Advent unless someone takes them over.

If you have attained a level of competence to pass a qualification you might be able to take that qualification elsewhere without having to do it all over again.. ie just take the assessment.

 

what structure do these qualifications follow?

 

ongoing assessments? End of unit tests? Exams at the end?

[whitie666]

As far as I can see, if they have gone bust thats the end of the road for getting certificates from Advent unless someone takes them over.

If you have attained a level of competence to pass a qualification you might be able to take that qualification elsewhere without having to do it all over again.. ie just take the assessment.

 

 

we do you think advent went bust ( ran away )

 

MCSE certs Comptia 220 etc are all usless now... check mircosoft learning

 

they are not doing what we have payed for ( updataed ) and also 10 times cheaper than what advent out of data crap was ...

 

noone can pick up advent a run it barclays will not be able to find a course that offer what advent did.. tho correct me if am wrong here

 

did anyone past and get a job with anyone from advent.? i mean am hearing loas of storys but yet dont hear any of good storys like i payed pass and earning from it now...???????

 

Forgiver the grammer i couldnt be bother to change it... again

[whitie666]

advent can have my books back

 

give me the money back!

[HSBCrusher]

If barclays have withdrawn from Advent and they dont have anyone else to borrow from they have become insolvent.

 

I don't think they have "run away" as such.. just stopped trading as far as I can see.

 

I have been involved with FE for many years, but I am not up to date with IT quals, so I dont know which quals are current for this subject.

[BankFodder]

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[Matt28LFC]

Im in the same boat as some here also, i signed up just over a year ago for the ANS with CCNA cost me like £6450! I didnt opt to pay monthly after the 1st year where you have to pay nothing i decided to pay the whole lot off in one go as i'd saved some cash and borrowed the rest from my dad so's that i didnt have to pay the mad APR on it

 

I've got my CompTIA A+ Cert and was working towards my MCDST and then i get that friggin email & im like wtf!! Is that my 6.5K wasted!!

 

All i want now is my hard earned cash back, i disgusts me that it seems that only hard working decent honest people get shafted like this!!!

 

Matt

 

Location, Kent

[Lindsey0796]

Directors name Ashley Jones as far as we know, but it seems the staff know very little!

 

We were not aware before xmas, they through a huge xmas party for us at Worcester Rugby Club 2 weeks before xmas.

 

Tele appointers and staff on probabtion were laid off w/c 04.01.2010, apparantly as a operating cost cutting exercise.

 

None of the Advent/Access staff have recieved their wages today!

 

Before xmas we were advised we could have 3 weeks paid overtime as we were doing so well and there was so much work. After the first lay off we were told we could only have a week. Then after we commited to the hours for that week we were advised they could not pay us and that if we did not do the overtime it did not look like you were supporting the company and you should consider yourself lucky to have a job, (basically threatened) that week I did over 50 hours for nothing!

 

Advent/Access had around 300 staff approx all owed anywhere between £1000 and £4000 wages! I would have rather had some wages today than a lie of an xmas party, thats for sure!

 

I have heard on the grapevine Computeach is the training advisor Barclays are hoping to change your training too. From what I know Computeach are independant and provide there own finance and have been around a very long time, alot of the staff actually came from computeach including the directors, so they are very strong company and appear to be weathering everything pretty well, they are also approved by the MOD as a forces approved provider so you should be pretty safe with them.

 

Hi everyone,

 

I spoke to an Advent trainer this morning for a good half an hour about this fiasco! I’m a student (only 14 months into the course) and I’ve paid off 6K to Barclays Partners Finance, spoke to them today and as previously mentioned they will send out a letter and be looking to switch my training elsewhere, which is a complete joke! This is a complete fob off, and the standards elsewhere could be even worse! I don’t trust Barclays on this one and I want my money back!! All say no to alternative training and demand your money back!

 

The Advent trainer had the following to say:

- 80 sales staff laid off before xmas – early signs?

- Advent insolvency “nothing to do with the recession”

- High possibility of fraud going on :o)

- Recruited averagely 400 students a month with a turnover of £2million a month

- The director is called ASLEY JONES.

- “course is designed so students don’t complete the course which makes them more money”

 

He’s also probably going to get peanuts when it comes to pay day. He was very sympathetic and knew something was wrong earlier this week when the caterers were being paid in cash rather then BACS.

 

I’m from Manchester and if anyone knows where Robin Furness is I would like to know! – He’s not based in the Pricess st office apparently and has moved to king st 6 months ago.

 

Lindsey0796 thanks for you advise and help on here! Really appreciated

 

Anyone from Manchester on here? Lets talk and drown our sorrows L

[prezesmaks]

Registered at last. Hello there boys and gals. Same story here. Was just about to book MCP exam next day(thursday) and obviously im screwed over like everyone of us. After couple of months when I started I had thoughts to withdrawn but probably I was either to lazy or it kept me going that I could sit an exam whenever and wherever. Im gonna be honest there is a bit of my fault. My wife wont tell me in my face she`s p...ed of and she is dissapointed as well. But You cannot forsee such a f..k up. Or can you... Anyway. Went through by enrolment form and and my Student Finance Plan Agreement with Advent Consulting and appointed agent to get the money was ANGLO CAPITAL LTD. Paid by Direct Debit 4k and £750 deposit which is all on Agreement. Most important info on it. :

..."If you have obtained unsatisfactory goods or services under this agreement you may have right to sue us".

But who? Anglo or Advent? Has someone mentioned before that ANGLO is a part of Barclays now?

 

Manchester area here-Leigh

 

Has someone paid using ANGLO CAPITAL?

please pm or stay in touch anyway. -

WE Are All Together in this...

[Lindsey0796]

Registered at last. Hello there boys and gals. Same story here. Was just about to book MCP exam next day(thursday) and obviously im screwed over like everyone of us. After couple of months when I started I had thoughts to withdrawn but probably I was either to lazy or it kept me going that I could sit an exam whenever and wherever. Im gonna be honest there is a bit of my fault. My wife wont tell me in my face she`s p...ed of and she is dissapointed as well. But You cannot forsee such a f..k up. Or can you... Anyway. Went through by enrolment form and and my Student Finance Plan Agreement with Advent Consulting and appointed agent to get the money was ANGLO CAPITAL LTD. Paid by Direct Debit 4k and £750 deposit which is all on Agreement. Most important info on it. :

..."If you have obtained unsatisfactory goods or services under this agreement you may have right to sue us".

But who? Anglo or Advent? Has someone mentioned before that ANGLO is a part of Barclays now?

 

Manchester area here-Leigh

 

Has someone paid using ANGLO CAPITAL?

please pm or stay in touch anyway. -

WE Are All Together in this...

 

But who would you sue? The company haven't paid the staff wages this month, suggesting no money in the company bank account to pay it and no money to claim if you sue.

 

I am no expert but I dont think this is the right course of action to get your money back.

 

This is the only contact info I can find for Anglo:

ANGLO CAPITAL LTD

39-40 Calthorpe Road

Edgbaston

BIRMINGHAM

B15 1TS

 

Hope this helps.

[luke100390]

Looking by the facebook comments people, Barclays are only offering to find another Retailer to continue the training.

 

I dont know much about the legal side of things but surely we have an option to not take this as our agreements were with Barclays & Advent.

 

Im trying to get to my local Citizens Advice but ive had no luck so far, If anyone manages to get in contact with them can you please let us know in here if we have to accept or possible to get a refund.