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    • I've just had a very interesting chat with somebody who's been in the water industry for a large number of years. First of all, the kind of situation you have – a company such as One Utility undertaking the management of the utilities bills is not uncommon with blocks of flats and in fact the utilities companies rather like it although I understand that at least one or two water companies have started become rather cautious about it and have started to withdraw from these arrangements. However, the advantage to the utilities companies – as you can imagine – is that they don't have to be bothered chasing lots of tenants who may come and go and the bills unpaid et cetera. That then becomes the responsibility/legal liability of the utilities management company such as One Utility. My source tells me that it is absolutely normal for these companies to be receiving commissions from the utilities companies that they are dealing with and also to have negotiated a favourable rate because they are effectively making bulk purchases. I'm sure the latter is true of One Utility. I don't know if they are receiving any commission – apparently they have told you that they are not. On the water issue, I have been advised to ask you certain questions. How many other tenants are there in the block of flats? Is the water supply to the block of flats metered? The assumption is that if it is metered then there is simply a single meter to the entire block –?? It would be extraordinary if there was a separate metre to each flat. Has the £40 increase been applied to each one of the flats? If you are the sole person to have received this £40 increase then how would One Utility know that it is your flat which is using excessive water if the water meter simply measured water consumption for the whole building? If on the other hand there is no water meter then it means that each one of flats would be charged water according to its rateable value. This means that they would be a flat annual charge and any excessive water consumption caused by leakage or a change in living culture – or alternatively a reduction in water usage for any reason, would not be reflected in the water bill. It would be a static unchanging water bill. So please could you give us some answers to the above? Also I still would like to know if the errors which have been caused by One Utility have caused you any losses. This is an important question because if they have then this might give us a little opening to a possible line of action.
    • This is there because the original letter was sent to a firm of solicitors. You are not writing to them but to VCS directly so Simple Simon is the person you refer to  as Simon Renshaw-Smith owns both VCS and Excel Parking and often forgets which company is doing what.  so to write to VCS you say Dear Sirs, i am in receipt of your latest missive and from the moment I picked it up to the moment I put it down I was convulsed in laughter, someday I intend to read it but until the time hell freezes over simple Simon knows that the byelaws override any possible contractual offer and anyways a prohibition is not an offer of a parking contract. As he has had many a spanking in court simple Simon also knows that he wil be paying my full costs for unreasobale conduct and I may well sue you for breach of the GDPR as per VCS v Phillip, Liverpool CC dec 2016 and other cases.
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can anyone tell me please who C & M Recoveries are ?

 

i've googled them and can find nothing about them and nothing to date by searching through the consumer action group

 

any help will be appreciated

 

thanks

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As a company that specialises only in bailiff matters.....I have never come across this company before.

 

Interestingly....4 people are viewing this post !!!!

 

Very strange.....

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thanks - when i search for the bailiff who is apparantly working for ross and roberts who are dealing with my unpaid council tax he comes up working for this c+m recoveries. his certificate is issued by wigan court and i should be dealt with southend county court. when you google c+m recoveries you get nothing so i'm wondering if they have stopped trading beause there was a problem with and this guy now works for r+r ? however any records i have found don't show this - as a result this guy sounds quite dodgy and with all the charges hes added i think further investigation is needed, its just knowing what i can and can't do

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thanks - when i search for the bailiff who is apparantly working for ross and roberts who are dealing with my unpaid council tax he comes up working for this c+m recoveries. his certificate is issued by wigan court and i should be dealt with southend county court. when you google c+m recoveries you get nothing so i'm wondering if they have stopped trading beause there was a problem with and this guy now works for r+r ? however any records i have found don't show this - as a result this guy sounds quite dodgy and with all the charges hes added i think further investigation is needed, its just knowing what i can and can't do

 

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the company that are dealing with my council tax arrears is ross and roberts and the bailff who is representing them has his certificate issued by wigan county court and apparntly works for this c+m recoveries company that i can't find absolutley nothing about. Also when you you search for ross and roberts bailiffs they are all in one particular area apart from one in my area who isn't the bailiff who called - something fishy here !!!

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SW -

 

what charges are they attempting, can you list them?

 

how many times have they visited you?


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Are you saying he is showing on the register as working for C&M rather than R&R?

 

If so, he is working illegally.

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Not necessarily, he may be self employed and R&M is a wrapper company limiting liability and he contracts to another Firm.

 

Im not sure of the legislation requiring him to certificate himself under a specific name, but he does need to tell his insurer or bond holder if he is trading under a different identity then when he took out his policy or bond.

 

Its often told in bailiff inhouse training its illegal to switch firms, but I think its to discourage firms poaching their certificated bailiffs when a local authority contract changes hands.


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If he is self employed he should not have any company name assigned him on the register - it should just be in his own name.

 

He CANNOT legally work for R&R if his certificate is issued under C&M. He must chnage it so it states he works for R&R or have it solely in his own name

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If he is self employed he should not have any company name assigned him on the register - it should just be in his own name.

 

What about Jamie Waller? doesnt he trade under his own company? He even does it in front of TV cameras.


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