Advice for all

[Chris2121]

Just posting this to advise all that are suffering in the hands of bailiffs

 

If you are receiving letters threatening your first method should be contacting the company who had hired these bailiffs wherever its threatening its then classed as threatening / demanding behaviour and this is illegal ask that company who hired these to pull the debt away do not swear, name call, threaten the company as this wont get anyone anywhere.

 

If you are receiving letters saying NOTIFICATION FOR SALE OF GOODS you should contact the company immediately as the company who hired the bailiffs can help resolve the issues with you or on your behalf.

 

If bailiffs are applying heavy charges to your balance do not accept these charges as it clearly states they cannot levy charges for home visits. Again contact the company who hired the bailiffs and inform them that the bailiffs keep applying charges to your balance in which you refuse to pay because you cannot afford

 

You should again also request that they pull your account back from the bailiffs if you feel they have done any of this or anything else that could be causing you stress/upset

 

A while back my dad had a council tax debt and it was passed to a bailiff to collect i contacted the council and explained everything to them that the bailiffs was doing and was mis-treating my dad

 

Even though my dad was paying the agreed amount on some occasions it may of been late or delayed at no fault of his own this could have been due to a fault in the system or repair work or simply because he may of got paid late

 

Due to this occuring and payment arriving 1 day late they sent him letters saying NOTIFICATION FOR SALE OF GOODS in which he had received so many from delays it was getting beond a joke

 

They would also apply between £50 - £100 per visit to our house and got so annoyed because my dad was actually paying and attempting to clear the balance in which he owed but with these on top he could not clear it as everytime he got near clearing it they would make another visit and apply these charges

 

These charges was actually applied for each debt he had so it could have been £100 x 3 for 3 debts he may of had

 

I also confronted the bailiff at his car and questioned him why are charges being applied like this when my dad is in debt and attempting to clear the balance without your charges then i went on to show him the OFT guideline booklet i was given by OFT

 

He then went quite and told me to speak to the office when i refused to allow my dad to pay such charges

 

The council then understood everything i explained in the letter to them and even apologised to my dad as i requested and now is paying the debt off to the council.

 

So i would advise if you feel your being unfairly treated you really should talk to the company who got the bailiffs as they can help you.

 

Dont suffer beining miss-treated by these bailiffs. Seek legal advice or talk to the company

 

Hope this helps

[Chris2121]

You should also send an acceptable offer with the amount you can realistically pay/afford to the council or company when asking them to pull it away.

 

This offer you should then agree and stick to. to clear the amount owed otherwise it could end up going back to a different one who could be more harsh bullies

 

The council / company can only accept or refuse but if your willing to make payments to the council / company then there should not be a problem with them pulling it away from the bullies

 

But in all cases if they are miss-treating you it is the councils / companies responsabilities to ensure you do not get miss-treated and no stress/upset is caused through bailiffs if they get complaints they will/should act immediately for a start by pulling the account away from the bullying bailiffs

 

Nobody should be subject to bullying, harassment, stress nor upset in any form.

[Chris2121]

If this fails you should then contact your local CAB office who will/should be willing to help you on this issue

 

You should also report that bailiff company if they are doing any of the above things as they may investigate and take any appropriate action they see fit as all bailiffs are under strict guidelines also

 

This could result in suspenture, fine, shut down or watched closely

 

The bailiffs are nothing more than big bullies and they will attempt any method to try get the money from you.

 

When collecting they should always stick within their guidelines if they dont thay can be punished

[Chris2121]

Remember never allow anyone in to your property claiming to be a bailiff without them showing their ID card once you have seen it phone the bailiff office and give the badge number to them to make sure it really is a bailiff if its not do not let them in and call the police immediately to have them removed there are so many boogus callers claiming to be from companies and are not.

 

never open the door until you feel safe to you can ask them to feed the badge through the letter box or put the chain on the door and ask them to pass you the badge so you can check it with the company

 

If they refuse then they are classed as bogus and you should then shut the door lock it or never open the door (if posted through the letter box) and you should do the above by calling the police.

 

Letting people in your home without proving their identity can be very risky. it is your home you decide who you let it its your safety you are thinking about.

 

In no event should a person force their way in even if you open the door this is tresspassing and can be arrested on the spot for entering a property without consent

[dx100uk]

you dont let bailiffs in under ANY circumstances fullstop, badge or no badge. else a WPO will follow!

 

this says it alot better:

 

1. contact your local Councillor - doesn't matter it's the weekend, they asked for public office so are used to being contacted at odd times.

 

2. contact Council - you need to know amount on Liability Order, amount still outstanding and when passed to Bailiff. Info can be requested by phone but back up by email and if necessary by hard copy.

 

3. contact Bailiff company - ask for statement of your account including screenshot - they are obliged to give you this. They may state they need £10 as it is for a Subject Access Request, your request falls outside of the Data Protection Act. Send info by email backed up by hard copy in post.

 

4. Formally request to Council asking they take your account back from Bailiff - usually again fails as Council staff can only read from script. Ask to speak to someone more Senior - you can go as far as Head of Revenues or Chief Executive. Always get name of who you are speaking to and their job title.

 

5. pay Council at a level you can afford - do this Online or by automated phone line.

 

6. When Bailiff calls totally ignore him - despite any threats he may make he can not have you arrested, break into your property (unless entry previously gained), attend with a locksmith, remove property in your absence. He is all bluff and bluster and as much use as a wet f*rt. You should also ask him for his ID and at what Court he is certificated - check this - he also has to carry a copy of the Liability Order.

 

It may be that the Bailiff is overcharging you and once that can be established you will hold all the aces. make sure you don't let him in and hide anything outside - particularly vehicles. There may be a couple of fees you may have to pay (£42-50 in total) but eventually he will go away to pester someone less fortunate. there is a pre-set fees tarif for all types of fines etc. 90% of the time the bailiff will be overchagring you.

 

from another thread.

 

dx

[Chris2121]

most bailiffs turn up with police meaning police have warrents and can enter the property so how can you stop them from entering you simply cant

 

why does the police come. Its for the bailiffs protection and is ordered that they arrive in the event they are not let in and also to witness anything that happens in the event of any alligations that may occur

[dx100uk]

no, rarely do bailiffs turn up with police

they certainly don't without having gone through a set process

which must involve liability orders

walk in possession orders

and levy etc

 

they can only force entry if they have already been in your house.

 

now, there is a diff between say magistrates fines and unpaid council tax on the way they can act.

 

but to make such sweeping statements is wrong and very alarmist, esp to new members wanting info.

 

dx

[crockie]

most bailiffs turn up with police meaning police have warrents and can enter the property so how can you stop them from entering you simply cant

 

why does the police come. Its for the bailiffs protection and is ordered that they arrive in the event they are not let in and also to witness anything that happens in the event of any alligations that may occur

 

I have never had a Bailiff turn up with the Police (unfortuantley I have had some experience). I have however called the police to deal with a Bailiff.

 

The Bailiff can call the police if he feels he is being threatend but then you can allways make that call first.

 

If the Bailiff is there to deal with council tax then the police CANNOT assist him in gaining entry to your property, IF the police arrive they will be there soley to prevent a breach of the peace.

 

In my experience the police didnt have a clue and suggested that we let him in

[hallowitch]

no, rarely do bailiffs turn up with police

they certainly don't without having gone through a set process

which must involve liability orders

walk in possession orders

and levy etc

 

they can only force entry if they have already been in your house.

 

now, there is a diff between say magistrates fines and unpaid council tax on the way they can act.

 

but to make such sweeping statements is wrong and very alarmist, esp to new members wanting info.

 

dx

 

 

Agree with every word dx

[Chris2121]

[Chris2121]

yeah but i think they have now started equippting bailiffs with police officers well some of them. not sure if its all

[twonames]

Chris i apreciate you are trying to be helpful but some of your info is off the mark and mis leading

[crockie]

One thing I would add is that if you have to talk to the Bailiff do it through the door (DONT OPEN THE DOOR) or upstairs window and make sure that you record everything via phone/camera

 

It's funny how a Bailiffs memory slips when he is complained about.

[twonames]

Magistrate fines can be assisted by police and forced entry can be obtained if neccesary

[Chris2121]

Not all bailiffs are bad though people should know that as some will try to help you out but you get some that wont even get outta their car until you move away from it

[dx100uk]

Magistrate fines can be assisted by police and forced entry can be obtained if neccesary

 

thank you thats what i looking for

 

well done twonames.

 

 

mods, i think this thread need burying.

alarmist clap trap.

 

dx

[Chris2121]

How is it mis-leading you aint got a clue yourself

[twonames]

chris i do not have the typing skills or time to list all of the mis leading facts you have stated

[Chris2121]

whatever your lear when you get bailiffs at your door with a police officer by his side

[Chris2121]

cant be assed with people like you who say everything is mis-leading think you know everything do you i should know what i have done you dont know what i tried so how about keeping your posts to yourself

[twonames]

It is an open forum Chris.

[MARTIN3030]

cant be assed with people like you who say everything is mis-leading think you know everything do you i should know what i have done you dont know what i tried so how about keeping your posts to yourself

 

 

Chris I think much of the tension here has been created by your assumption that people in these forums are oblivious to bailiff practices and peoples rights to see fair play.

On the contrary,we have people here who are very much up to speed with laws,regulations and best practice.

To try to undermine those,or introduce scenarios that are not typical,is surely inviting correction.

Its not to say that your intentions in starting this thread were not honourable,nor that your intentions were not to be informative.

But the subject of Bailiffs and the guidance thats given out,is far too important for those who seek it in their own problems,to be anything but 100% accurate,factual and most of all unchallengable.

Members should expect nothing less.

There can be no point in leaving this thread to run further.

I hope that you can get a greater understanding reading further-you will see that much work has gone into addressing common questions-and that those efforts should not be seen to have been in vain.

Thread now closed.Thanks again for all input.