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does the 11 hour minimum rest period apply when attending a work christmas function?

 

we have to attend the function if possible and it officialy ends at 12:30am in the morning. normally we would be at work at 8:30 am. does the WTD apply to these functions? can we expect to start no earlier than 11:30am the next day? managmenet have organised the party for a weeknight.

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Unless the Christmas Function is part of your working contract, and you are being paid for it per contract, no the working times regulations do not apply.


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our contract states usual working hours but that we may from time to time be asked to work outside those hours. which we do quite a lot but do not get paid extra for that or overtime in most cases. i am not quite sure how that fits in with the contract.

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does the 11 hour minimum rest period apply when attending a work christmas function?

 

we have to attend the function if possible and it officialy ends at 12:30am in the morning. normally we would be at work at 8:30 am. does the WTD apply to these functions? can we expect to start no earlier than 11:30am the next day? managmenet have organised the party for a weeknight.

 

our contract states usual working hours but that we may from time to time be asked to work outside those hours. which we do quite a lot but do not get paid extra for that or overtime in most cases. i am not quite sure how that fits in with the contract.

 

Hi MC,

 

If you worked for me and you were worried about this, i'd say "go home early then and we'll all carry on enjoying ourselves for an extra couple of hours safe in the knowledge that you'll be at work at 8.30 covering our rears". But that's purely my opinion (no offence intended)

 

Are you totally and completely obliged to attend this function? It's another option if not.

 

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don't worry i shall definately be going home early, but not sure about turning up to work early as the keyholder will probably not be up at that hour.

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Nice to see the spirit of Christmas is alive and well.

 

It's a party!!!!

It's Christmas!!!!

 

If you worked for me and asked this i'd retract the invite on the grounds that you are being a party pooper.

 

I suppose them you'd post on here about discrimination.

 

Hammy :)

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I'd get slaughtered and just turn up late (done it many times lol) but please be aware that this may not be sound advice.

 

depends what you think you can get away with :D:D:D

 

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Nice to see the spirit of Christmas is alive and well.

 

It's a party!!!!

It's Christmas!!!!

 

If you worked for me and asked this i'd retract the invite on the grounds that you are being a party pooper.

 

I suppose them you'd post on here about discrimination.

 

Hammy :)

 

Not everybody likes these type of events and the OP should be completely free to go or not go as they please.

 

It rather seems the OP is obliged to attend the "party" which in my book makes it work!


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So, don't go, but attend work as usual and stop moaning about it.

 

If you really don't like it resign, there will be plenty of willing takers of a good job.

 

Nobody likes a misery guts.

 

Hammy :)


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If you didnt go to the party could you possibly be disciplined for this ?

 

 

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So, don't go, but attend work as usual and stop moaning about it.

 

If you really don't like it resign, there will be plenty of willing takers of a good job.

 

Nobody likes a misery guts.

 

Hammy :)

 

:D:D:D I think Hammy has a point.

 

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Some firms virtually force you to go to their xmas party which does make it feel like work. And whilst the party might be free, they don't usually pay travel costs home. Used to cost me £40 in taxi's.

 

So, parties are good but there can be a down side too!

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Unless you are in the Party business I really can't see how you would be forced to go to a party and make it feel like work.

 

It has to be said that some employees are more trouble than they are worth, they walk around with the rule book in one hand, a copy of the Working Time Directive in the other and manage to carry a cup of coffee as well.

 

This leaves them with very few limbs to actually do any work at all with. But, just try and get rid off them........................

 

They all end up on here getting tea and sympathy when actually, it's a Godsend they've gone.

 

I should stop now.

 

Hammy :)


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Some firms virtually force you to go to their xmas party which does make it feel like work. And whilst the party might be free, they don't usually pay travel costs home. Used to cost me £40 in taxi's.

 

So, parties are good but there can be a down side too!

 

The way around this is to blow the party out, go to your local and have an extra 40 quid to spend on a cracking night out. Next day - phone in sick (which is why you never turned up for the party in the first place :D).

 

Can't lose surely.

 

M


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I remember my old workplaces xmas party. It was an awards night/xmas do. You know, the usual members of staff who win every year, cos they're related to the boss kind of affair! Well, we were told it was compulsaty, but we weren't getting paid for it, but would be given a drink on the way in.

 

i think me and my mate lasted 5 minutes, then left for the pub. After we left, the HR manager stood guard on the door and wouldn't let anyone out, and it's been that way ever since! Once you're in, you don't get out at all!

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I should stop now.

 

Hammy :)

 

Please!


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:D:D:D I think Hammy has a point.

 

M

 

I don't think so. Why can't it just be a person's choice whether they enjoy this type of thing; why should someone have to give up their job for not having identical social interests to everyone else? Perhaps if we knew what the OP's job was it would help judge if a party is a genuine requirement of that job.


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OPs first post says attendance of the function is "if possible". Don't think loss of job is an issue, just loss of sleep the next morning.

 

Personally i'd blow it out and go for this..........

The way around this is to blow the party out, go to your local and have an extra 40 quid to spend on a cracking night out. Next day - phone in sick (which is why you never turned up for the party in the first place :grin:).

 

Can't lose surely.

M


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Must admit our old Xmas parties were good. Everything was paid for except taxi home and, on the odd occasion they fell on a week night, there was an unwritten rule that as long as we were in for 11 the next morning, it was OK.

 

Doubt it would have been OK if we hadn't gone and then rang in sick though!!!

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Must admit our old Xmas parties were good. Everything was paid for except taxi home and, on the odd occasion they fell on a week night, there was an unwritten rule that as long as we were in for 11 the next morning, it was OK.

 

 

That's MCs point! If 11 the next morning was OK there wouldn't be a problem :)

 

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I remember my old workplaces xmas party. It was an awards night/xmas do. You know, the usual members of staff who win every year, cos they're related to the boss kind of affair! Well, we were told it was compulsaty, but we weren't getting paid for it, but would be given a drink on the way in.

 

i think me and my mate lasted 5 minutes, then left for the pub. After we left, the HR manager stood guard on the door and wouldn't let anyone out, and it's been that way ever since! Once you're in, you don't get out at all!

W....T....fffF! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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I've heard now that they actually lock the doors of the venue so you're forced to sit through the owners, "aren't I marvellous cos I donate lots of money to charity" speech.

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I've heard now that they actually lock the doors of the venue so you're forced to sit through the owners, "aren't I marvellous cos I donate lots of money to charity" speech.

 

A quiet word to the fire officer would sort this out!


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Please!

 

I could go on all night, you see, I'm one of those dreaded Manager types. I have to put up with jobsworths, knowitalls, union 'experts', trade experts, H&bloodyS experts, experts on contact law, experts on employment law, the list is endless and they all work, supposedly, for me. Thing is if they are so clever............why are they working for a pittance under me.

 

Makes me smile everyday!

 

Hammy :)


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