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Hello Forum,

 

We have had a Baliff visit and they kindly left letters regarding unpaid council tax totalling £1287.92 PLUS COSTS.

 

Can anyone tell me what 'PLUS COSTS' mean????

 

There is no way i'm paying the Baliffs any costs!!!!

 

My wife has arranged to see the Baliff on Wednesday so he can come round and do 'Some Paperwork regarding the payment arrangement we are going to put in place.

 

He firstly demanded £180 straight away but we have managed to get this down to £120 and then £80 a month hopefully!!!

He has said he isnt going to take anything, he just wants to get an arrangement in place!!!!

 

Can anyone offer some advice please!!!

 

Regards

 

Ripper

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Hello Forum,

 

We have had a Baliff visit and they kindly left letters regarding unpaid council tax totalling £1287.92 PLUS COSTS.

 

Can anyone tell me what 'PLUS COSTS' mean????

 

There is no way i'm paying the Baliffs any costs!!!!

 

My wife has arranged to see the Baliff on Wednesday so he can come round and do 'Some Paperwork regarding the payment arrangement we are going to put in place.

 

He firstly demanded £180 straight away but we have managed to get this down to £120 and then £80 a month hopefully!!!

He has said he isnt going to take anything, he just wants to get an arrangement in place!!!!

 

Can anyone offer some advice please!!!

 

Regards

 

Ripper

 

 

First advise is DO NOT LET HIM INTO YOUR HOME, PERIOD !

 

DO NOT sign anything, until you have read it and FULLY understood what it is for !

 

DO NOT sign a walking possession order.... !

 

 

Someone that knows more will be along soon :)

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STOP THE VISIT FOR PAPERWORK once he is invited into your home you are on a downward slope to nowhere,

Lock all doors and windows

Remove any car a very safe distance from your home

If you have shed remove anything of value out of it

Take everything laying outside in your garden in doors (garden furniture)

Do not under any circumstances allow him/her into your home and send your proposed payment plan to them in writing using recorded delivery and send a copy to the council.

Do not speak with the Bailiff unless through the letterbox or an upstairs window.

Video his/her visits to your home.

Record any telephone contact from them.

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My wife has arranged to see the Baliff on Wednesday so he can come round and do 'Some Paperwork regarding the payment arrangement we are going to put in place.

 

Alarm bells are ringing here Ripper!! :eek: :eek:

 

By all means meet the Bailiff but do it somewhere neutral and NOT inside your premises. Also make sure that all windows and doors are securely locked to your house.

 

There is a statutory schedule of rates/charges for Bailiffs but hopefully someone else will advise on this aspect.

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nearly forgot PLUS COSTS this is the trap that caught the mouse and it will catch you as well, Bailiffs even the nice ones ( if they are real people) will convince you that their charges are legal and if you read other posts on this fantastic sight you will soon come to realise there are two types of costs/fees. Those that are invented by the bailiff company and those that are fact.

Hang in there expert help will find you and put you fully in the picture.

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Ok so my plan is to ring the Council on Monday and make the £120 payment to them and then tell them i'll be paying £80 a month from then on.

I'm also planning to call the Baiff office and tell them that we wont be meeting with the Baliff and i am dealing straight with the council.

 

Am i corect to do that???

 

Also, am i right in saying that the Baliffs cannot make a forced entry into my home???

 

Ripper

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Ok so my plan is to ring the Council on Monday and make the £120 payment to them and then tell them i'll be paying £80 a month from then on.

I'm also planning to call the Baiff office and tell them that we wont be meeting with the Baliff and i am dealing straight with the council.

 

Am i corect to do that???

 

Also, am i right in saying that the Baliffs cannot make a forced entry into my home???

 

Ripper

 

Ripper WHOA WHOA WHOA

 

Just a moment here, there are legal and viable charges associated with the bailiff's visit,

 

Did the council go to the courts and get a L O ?

 

You cant just pay the councill £120.00 and then £80.00 per month, as you have had the chance to do that already ( re L O )

 

Do not let the B come and see you, whatever ****e he tells you.

 

In the first instance write a letter to the council and send a copy to the courts, but you will have to get it to them both asap, ask for their ( council) opinion, tell them you burried your head etc and your sorry etc,

 

If they wont agree to what you are offering, then they dont have to help, but that is a whole new ball game which I can help and advise if and when it happens, get your letter in asap, and keep me updated.

 

Cheers

 

Mr W

Regards..Mr Worried :)

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Mr Worried,

 

Yes Council have been to court and got a L.O. We have been in Rent Arrears and cleared them last month. So now in position to pay the Council Tax.

 

So we send a letter to the Council & Courts outlining what we propose to do. E.G £120 straight away & £80 a month!!!??!!!

 

Would it not be better to call the Council or maybe go to the council face to face??? We also have email contact???

 

Wednesday is the Baliff visit, What should i say to them???

 

Regards

 

Ripper

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Ripper, you've had some good advice here already.

You write to the council because you want a paper trail. Councils often say 'sorry, it's with the bailiff now, no can do'. Pay them online or via an automated system. Regardless of the councils initial reaction [which may well be favourable] you've already started the process of cutting out the bailiff.

There is no requirement to say anything to the bailiff. Any further communication should be in writing. As has been said, under no circumstances let him set one little wiggly toe inside your property. Ignore any protestations, wild threats and fanciful figures expected in payment.

There are a lot of template letters on this site and, if you have a mooch through the threads you'll soon get a feel for what you need to do.

Good luck.

Rae

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As we havn't got much time we are going to produce a letter but we are gonna visit the council on Monday. Present the letter and our offer etc and ask there opinion. Hopefully they will call off the Baliffs and we can go from there.

 

Anyones Views would be appreciated!!!!

 

Ripper

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As we havn't got much time we are going to produce a letter but we are gonna visit the council on Monday. Present the letter and our offer etc and ask there opinion. Hopefully they will call off the Baliffs and we can go from there.

 

Anyones Views would be appreciated!!!!

 

Ripper

 

The answer you will get will be "we can't do anything as it has been passed to the Bailiff, you will have to deal with him instead" or words to that effect.

 

There is no Law anywhere that says you have to deal with the Bailiff. Best advice totally ignore him. Kelcou has given advice above well worth following.

 

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UPDATE

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I went to the council offices yesterday and they took £100 payment from me and said they will ring the Baliffs to update them. They have told the Baliffs not to visit on Wednesday and that an agreement of £80 a month has been reached. This £80 has to be paid to the Baliffs by Card Payment over the phone. If we miss a payment then they visit us again.

 

Cheers for everyones help

 

Ripper

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UPDATE

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I went to the council offices yesterday and they took £100 payment from me and said they will ring the Baliffs to update them. They have told the Baliffs not to visit on Wednesday and that an agreement of £80 a month has been reached. This £80 has to be paid to the Baliffs by Card Payment over the phone. If we miss a payment then they visit us again.

 

Cheers for everyones help

 

Ripper

 

A couple of things to remember:

What happens if the phone line is down?

If you are even 1 day late they will chase you.

 

Think other posters have also said that because of the banking system it can take XX days for your payment to reach the Bailiff so you may have to pay it up to a week earlier to ensure payment is then received on time.

 

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If the phoneline is down then we are just unlucky. We will have to make sure that we pay a few days earlier. My payment date is 31st and my wife gets paid on the 26th so it gives us a few days to ring and pay by card.

They wont accept direct debit only a card payment over the phone.

Im not prepared for a Baliff to be knocking at my door every five minutes so this arrangement suites us. And to be honest if we are late paying or we do miss payment then i only have myself to blame!!!!

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