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Hi, I was hoping to get people's opinion on the below clause.


The background to this is that I signed a 12 month tenancy agreement on a property. I moved in on 9th June 2009. I wanted to include a six month break clause but the Landlord requested (verbally unfortunately) that I have an 8 month break clause as he didn’t want to relist at Christmas time.


I agreed and signed the contract which included the below clause.


I have just tried to give notice on the property as it has now been 6 months but were told that we have signed a 8+2 month break clause and I cannot leave until April 9th.


I read the below as the tenant can leave after 8 months provided they gave 2 months notice of that desire. The Letting agent disagrees.


What do people think, do you agree with the letting agents interpretation or mine? And secondly what options do I have regarding independent assessment of the clause?


I have already signed a contract on a new property to move in in Jan so I will be liable for 2 rents if the letting agent continues.


I'm assuming that there is a right or wrong answer here and if im wrong - that’s fine I'll notch it up as a mistake on my part but I would like to find out who is right.


Thanks in anticipation….


"If the Tenant shall desire to determine the tenancy hereby created at or

at any time after the end of the first eight months thereof and shall give

the Landlord not less than two months notice in writing of such desire and

shall up to the time of such determination pay the rent and observe and

perform the agreements and obligations on the Tenant’s part hereinbefore

reserved and contained then immediately on the expiration of such notice

the present tenancy and everything herein contained shall cease and be

void but without prejudice to the rights and remedies of either party

against the other in respect of any antecedent claim or breach of


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I think you are right. With these things, I try to put them into straightforward English (sometimes its impossible with lawyer-speak):


"If the tenant wants to end the tenancy in January or later, he should give two month's notice."


The agent's interpretation of the above would be that the "wants" refers to January which seems wrong to me. But then I am not a lawyer.


If they wanted it that way round they would have said:


"If at or at any time after the end of the first eight months the tenant shall desire to end the tenancy...then he shall give the landlord 2 months notice..."


If you move out, you may end up having to dispute the return of your deposit and/or a possible court action. But if you're able to "notch it up" as a mistake, I'd suggest it is worth taking on the fight.


Can you get in contact with your landlord again to sort this out?

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Thanks Steve, i appreciate you taking the time to reply to me.


I agree with what you've said, when you break it down the the plain English essence of the sentence I can't see how the agent has concluded 8+2.


I can get in contact with both the landlord and the letting agent to come to a resolution.


Do you know if i employ the services of a property solicitor and they confirm that its a 6+2 month break clause whether that would conclude the issue or would that simply serve as the basis to a court case?



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If they push all the way, only a judge can decide.

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