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Good afternoon. I've read a few threads briefly regarding a dmp with stepchange and was 95% complete with setting one up when I noticed the advice of letting things default instead and/or managing a dmp yourself. My current situation is the following £470 owed to Jacamo. Has not defaulted. Currently on a £10 payment plan with them for 12 months. Not sure what to do here £2700 owed to Vanquis - Credit Card. Has not defaulted and I have not missed payments. I am unemployed and even making a £200 payment from my benefit means £80 odd gets eaten thanks to interest. Guessing I let this default and then set up a payment plan after? £2500 owed to Lowell who bought from Very and passed on to Overdales after I ignored them. Last payment to Lowell was 30th November 2022. Plan here was to fight them in small claims court if it ever gets that far, assuming the worst. Any advice is very much appreciated, thank you. -
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Ok, so they will look back a max of 1 year's record and ask me to tick which ones were used by me?
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By honeybee13 · Posted
Not prison, no. That has never happened here. I think they can look back a year on their system and you'll have something like TiredDodo did when they were summoned to court. With a year's use, I'll be amazed if you don't have a court appearance. HB -
do you know how far back is the journey they can produce ? also, i will have to tick against their list. am i going to be imprisoned??
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