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    • Thanks Andy, the screenshot of the Luma Card from the internet bears the first 4 digits matching the account number they are using in this claim. There are other images with different numbers on them too...... 
    • A further valid point which you can add and adapt to my last post...then use that as your statement.   With regards to on line application in their statement I have posted the section above re " typing your surname and date " you give the necessary consent to be bound by the terms and conditions.Well you dont  ...you also have to tick the tick box which creates a digital signature...none of which is on the alleged application they disclose and rely on.
    • So lets look at your one link (I think) apart from some recent news reports from China   My statements are as defined by WHO, the CDC etc etc based on the experiences they had in managing and investigating prior similar outbreaks like MERS and SARS   ... gets my vote     Yours references appear based on a reputable source MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news--wuhan-coronavirus/   BUT - what actually is it?   I've scanned through two the two latest reports and it certainlt seems to be a mathematical modelling exercise (standard deviation etc) on the current outbreak based on the limited information currently available.   Absolutely a worthy and essential goal that undoubtedly will add to our knowledge of the progress of these sort of outbreaks It MIGHT even update the processes and procedures already in place some time in the future, or it might simply confirm them.     But is is accurate or anything other at present? From the LATEST updated report 3 - their own words quoted.   "For our baseline estimates, we assume that two key characteristics of 2019-nCoV are similar to those observed for SARS   that there is high  level of variability  in the number of new infections generated by each infectious individual    and that the  generation time (the  average time between generations of infection)  is  the same as was estimated for SARS (mean of  8.4  days  [3])"       "we also generate estimates assuming 1000 or 9700 cases by 18th January, the lower and upper bounds of the uncertainty range around our central estimate of 4000 cases by that date." (a 10 fold spread in the estimates)     How accurate have these guess-timations you quote here proven to be (in their own words)? " The  uncertainty range is 1,000-9,700, reflecting the many continuing unknowns involved in deriving these estimates. Our central estimate of 4,000 is more than double our past estimates, a result of the increase of the number of cases detected outside mainland China "     So yes I do understand them, and will stick with the CDC/WHO figures thank you         oh and of course a Russian spook selling a book - which I admit to NOT having read - I did say not Alex Jones
    • Not really a risk more of an oversight because throughout this claim you have stated you have never held a Cap One Credit Card.....now you find you did...but it helps prove thats theirs cant be valid because you would not have 2 credit agreements with Cap 1 unless one was for a Luma brand.   If your numbers in the screenshot are different to the ones they are quoting in this claim (they have given an account number ?) then yes it would be useful.   This is not about avoiding paying any debt its about proving to the court how DCAs are manufacturing documents to fit their claims.
    • If we can’t agree on the incubation period, what are you thoughts on “Ro” for 2019-CoV (or R0), which I’d prefer to write as R(subscript-0) if I was able....   a) what would you estimate it to be?   I’ve seen estimates of between 1.4-2.5 (the WHO report factoring in 4th generation cases, from Jan 23rd),   1.4-3.8 from other analyses from the same date, although Fisman from Toronto (who did much of the modelling around SARS) cites a paper noting “the volume of observed exported cases in countries outside China suggested a much larger underlying epidemic than had been reported at that time, and this epidemic may have begun a month prior to the recognition of the market-associated outbreak, consistent with the reported timing of viral emergence based on phylogenetic analyses” Fisman believes there is “a SARS-compatible generation time of 6-10 days” (so, again, not 14 days!), stating that he believes the transmission dynamics are similar to SARS :  “ It is the average R0 that determines whether, and how, the disease can be controlled.  By analogy with SARS and MERS, with which nCoV seems to share many characteristics, the spread of this virus should be controllable.”   Do you agree: a) “superspreaders may widen the Ro range seen” (there are suggestion one hospitalised case generated 14 secondary cases), and b) the outbreak can be controlled by measures to bring Ro (targeting both standard spreaders and accepting the challenge of “superspreaders”) down to below 1?   Happy to consider your expert epidemiological opinion based on current knowledge of the statistics currently available (& accepting that the information gets refined over time!)   Ohh, and that still isn’t an incubation period of 14 days, if the generation time is 10 days  (dependant on when / if infectivity occurs prior to symptoms, are you suggesting that that interval is 4+ days??)
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Hi everyone, Im new to this. About a week ago I parked in an Aldi store and was there for just over an hour. It stated that I had been over the allocated time of an hour and a half and I have to pay £70 or pay £40 within 10 days and that would be that? Has anyone had any dealings with Private Eye and what should I do? Thanks:(

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• do not pay

• do not contact them

• ignore their threatening junkmail

• ignore the rubbish from their powerless debt collectors

• they will give up and go away

 

Parking Eye are well known

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Are they well know? I had a look at their website and they seem legit...how can they work like this and be allowed? Have you had experiences with them in the past then? Sorry for all the questions just annoyed and need some answers!:)

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Spend some time on all the posts here, you will a lot of people in your situation who have ignored the invoices and eventually they just go away.

 

It has been stated that 70% of people pay up when they receive these invoices, fortunately, the other 30% are wise enough to realise that a private company can not impose a penalty on anyone!

 

Who is going to stop them? DVLA sell your details for £2.50 a time and make £6million a year from it, it certainly wont be them!!

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I've spent most of the morning looking at the various posts and the common theme is IGNORE the letters and requests! So I will do that, I am just annoyed that this country lets these illegal businesses hassle people and the weaker ones will pay and not think twice. As for the DVLA what a waste of time they are!

Are you suggesting that I dont even aknowledge that I received the original letter?

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Are they well know?

 

Quote from Al27 that you have just read:

 

Parking Eye are well known scamsters

 

I had a look at their website and they seem legit...how can they work like this and be allowed? Have you had experiences with them in the past then? Sorry for all the questions just annoyed and need some answers!:)

 

Use of the Search facility on here will result in oodles of threads and messages with regard Parking Eye and other Private Parking Companies (PPC's). They all operate with the same business model - scare you into paying.

 

The advice you receive for a Invoice from any of them is the same:

 

1. Ignore

2. Ignore

3. Goto 1

 

You (or the Registered Keeper) will receive a few letters from them initially, some perhaps with red borders and wording to worry you followed by a few more from a Debt Collection Agency threatening all manner of nasty things will happen to you (none of which will) then finaly, you might get a few more from some solicitor after which they will realise your not going to bite and move along to somebody else.

 

You parked in a Free Car Park - you overstayed by an alledged period of time and denyed somebody else use of that free space at a cost of nothing therefore the potential loss to the landowner/operator was nothing. Under contract law they can only claim their losses which as we can see is - nothing !

 

Their claim for £70 or whatever they try it on for is meaningless. Aside from that the alledged contract was with the driver of the vehicle, the only means they have of contacting anybody to try and obtain money is by contacting the Registered Keeper (as the DVLA will happy take a few pounds from Parking Eye for this information) - if the Registered Keeper was not driving they have no obligation to say who was therefore Parking Eye have no one to chase - despite what they may suggest in correspondence they will send you.

 

Blagton.

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Are you suggesting that I dont even aknowledge that I received the original letter?

 

Yep - wasting your time and the cost of a letter and postage. [1]

 

Sit back and just wait for the well documented junk follow.

 

[1] If you did want to write a letter then something to your local Trading Standards and MP telling them you consider the DVLA providing your details to PPC's is not "just reason" and in breach of the DPA and finally Aldi stores telling them you will use Lidl instead might be better use of your time.

 

Blagton.

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Thanks for all the information lads. What sort of timescale are we talking here in terms of this going away, etc

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5/6 letters over a 4 or 5 month period.

 

Under contract law a party is allowed to claim any actual losses they have suffered. Your actions have cost the other party zero pounds. The amount demanded by parking eye is defined as a penalty - a punative charge - which is not legally enforceable (see Dunlop vs New Garage 1913).

 

Practically though, all the company does is buy addresses from the DVLA at £2.50 a pop and send out threatening letters. The law doesn't come into it - they just prey on motorists. Feel free to complain to your local Trading Standards.

 

This [problem] originated when the government started selling addresses to anybody who wanted them. They pocket millions each year so are happy to let the [problem] persist.

 

It's pretty obvious the current lot will be out in May (although personally I don't think much of the other side either).

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Parking Eye - definately ignore.

 

Local Morrisons carpark is run by this bunch and word is spreading that ignore works well

 

This originated when the government started selling addresses to anybody who wanted them. They pocket millions each year so are happy to let the [problem] persist.

 

It's pretty obvious the current lot will be out in May (although personally I don't think much of the other side either).

 

And will change precisely nothing as they have their expenses to fund as well :D

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Thanks for that Al27. I just emailed my local trading standards and also my MP, so will see what they advise me. Its disgusting that they are allowed to work in this way and the gov'ment actually let them do it to make money!?

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Thanks asmodeus...is there anyone on here who has ignored Parking Eye and has a story to tell, right through to them giving up? any information would be cool to read...;)

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Thanks for that Al27. I just emailed my local trading standards and also my MP, so will see what they advise me. Its disgusting that they are allowed to work in this way and the gov'ment actually let them do it to make money!?

 

Lets see how knowledgebale they are then :eek:

 

You might notice that your V5 states your information may be given to anybody who asks for it and which the DVLA consider "Just Reason" (and for PPC's they do).

 

At £2.50 x however many requests the DVLA get per year the chances of anything changing are, well - you take a guess :mad:

 

Blagton

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Thanks asmodeus...is there anyone on here who has ignored Parking Eye and has a story to tell, right through to them giving up? any information would be cool to read...;)

 

Well I've ignored four of their useless invoices and the story is always the same, they send three letters, an outfit called CCS Collect send two or three letters threatening court action, CCJs, bailiffs, kidnap your dog, sell your kids into slavery, stop you getting credit for the next hundred years etc etc, then you just dont hear from them again.

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Hanley thanks for sharing your story, its much appreciated. Im just ashamed of this government to allow this to happen to people...its inexcusable...I'll await the letters and keep this updated for future people who try and get ripped off..

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I'll await the letters and keep this updated for future people who try and get ripped off..

 

Thats the idea. Now you understand its a [problem] tell all your friends, relatives, colleagues etc. Its the only way to put the **** out of business.

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Ignoring them hurts them the most.

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Please remember our troops, fighting and dying in our name. God protect them.

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parkin eye.jpg

 

Hi Guys, This is the first letter I received from the Parking Eye crew...is it the same as everyone else? I'm going to ignore it anyway just seeing if anyone else has received the same? Cheers:)

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It's the usual blag. Just carry on ignoring them, trust me, they really hate you doing that.

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Second letter from Private Eye..anyone else have a similar letter?

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not one that small :)

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sorry about the size of the jpeg, Im unsure how you increase the size after I scanned it lol

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It's the standard issue toilet paper. File with the rest.

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Yes standard 2nd letter. Next one will be from CCS:

 

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Thanks had that exact same letter from them last week lol....shall i ignore it!?:)

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