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i am not at all surprised only yesterday it was announced that 2 banks had taken billions of pounds in government loans last month, there was no way in this economic climate that this gov. was going to put the banks into the position of having to refund billions of pounds in charges. if this had happened before the banking disaster i think that the banks would have lost, but now there is no chance..

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BBC News - Banks win Supreme Court case on overdraft charges

 

Unbelievable, it just shows that these unelected Lords serve no real purpose whatsoever and are (allegedly) as buyable as any other MP

 

I should be grateful that I got my claim in against Halifax Credit Card when I did.

 

However, even though the OFT has lost the case, don't forget it still states in the CPUTR that charges must be representative of their costs and to date, no financial institution has come forward to state exactly what it costs them.

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I had an email from Nat West this morning advising me of a change in my banking conditions. All my charges seem to have been cut to around £5 and no more massive daily charges but limited to smaller amounts in any one period.

 

Do you think deals have been made with the banks to save them from refunding billions if they now set realistic charges??

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Read the official press release here: http://www.supremecourt.gov.uk/docs/uksc_2009_0070_ps.pdf

 

The full judgment has not been posted yet.

 

[edit] Here it is: http://www.supremecourt.gov.uk/docs/uksc_2009_0070_judgmentV2.pdf

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The Supreme Court had to decide not whether the banks’ charges for unauthorised overdrafts were fair but whether the OFT could launch an

investigation into whether they were fair.

 

 

The court decided that although the interpretation of the European directive which the Regulations implemented was a question of European law it was not necessary to refer the matter to the European Court of Justice (Paras 49, 91, 115, 120).

 

However, the charges might still be open to assessment by the OFT on other grounds under Regulation 5.

 

Looks far from a victory for the banks to me

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Speechless. Just cannot believe it, and no room for a european court appeal so obviously they had no confidence in their own judgement that it would stand up to further investigation.:shock:

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The Banks are robbing B******s

 

They gamble on speculatiative deals and when they cock up we have to bail them out yet they still get their inflated salaries and bonuses.

 

Go £1 over and they charge you £30 for being overdrawn £30 for not paying a DD plus £30 for telling you they are not going to pay the DD

 

GREEDY GREEDY SCUMBAGS

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