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    • Hi all,    I have read all the threads about CLI (Credit limits international) regarding fines from minor traffic offences in Florence Italy but I wonder if anyone actually faced some serious issues by ignoring the letters? Did any bailiffs knocking on the door, any court hearings, credit scores affected etc?   In my case, it is for a traffic offence in Florence and entering a traffic limited zone in 2015. CLI claims that their client is the Firenze Municipale and they are collecting the debt on their behalf. However, I have (as many others) never received the first or any notification from the Italian traffic police itself.  I called them and as stated in many online websites - they confirmed that the final notification is sent by registered post and needs to sent within 360 days of when they received my contact details by the rental company. The most odd thing is that the Firenze Municipale also mentioned that they hold no records of old fines so that makes me really wonder how they can act on behalf of the police when they don't have any records of it? Also worth mentioning is that, there are many errors on the original fine CLI has sent me, there are slightly different amount stated on each page.    If they have bought the debt than it would be fraud by claiming that they act on behalf of a client.   I know many are saying to ignore it and they have no authority to take further legal actions, however they are a member of CSA (note I have spoken to FCA and they confirmed they do not regulate traffic offences so they do not need to be registered there) so I would think they can enforce it.    Does anyone have any experience and how far did CLI take it? I have no problem paying the original fine as I never was notified but they are claiming more than 4 times and I doubt you can negotiate.    Thanks!    
    • Fined for exceeding the free parking period.   I can’t found the form the other posters have filled out with details of fine etc but it happened on the 3rd September issue date 7th September. I received the fine on the 16th September but this is delayed, I imagine, due to my car being a car hire so was alerted to it my.    Shopped at Lidl, have proof of shopping with my Apple Pay but not a physical receipt.    Looking back with Google maps there are signs saying customer parking but no obvious terms.   Having read some posts on here, I have written to the CEO, included proof of shopping etc and am waiting for their reply.    Feeling hopeful but also anxious I will end up having to deal with Athena and they seem like hideous people to deal with.    Any advice greatfully received.    Attached fine    Email I sent to CEO (havehad no confirmation that they have received the email) christian.haertnagel@lidl.co.uk (hope this is the current ceo) below.     Dear Christian,   I hope this finds you healthy and well in this unprecedented time.   I have recently moved to SE9 from NW3 and having been a religious online grocery shopper, spending large amounts with Ocado, please see attached document. Since moving to SE9, having recently bought a car, the current financial climate & having more options for our grocery shopping, we decided to start shopping at Lidl in Eltham having heard good things.  We have gone in there a few times now and, so far, we are pleased with the produce we come home with & the customer service experience. Also this branch has a lot of house hold goods, clothing, gardening and recently DIY equipment, lots to look through.   Our visit on the 3rd September, we must have taken longer than we realised. We were there with friends and they were doing a big shop, us not so big this time and afterwards we even signed up for Lidl Plus, please see attached document, so we were really pleased.   Today I was shocked to receive a, very un, Civil Parking Charge Notice for being in the car park 21 minutes over the the 90 minute free parking, please see notices attached below. We had no idea this free parking restriction even existed and there centrally wasn’t any adequate signage to alert us in our arrival.   Please find proof of our purchase attached, please note the time of the purchase 16.38 and the notice states we departed the car park at 16.42.   We trust that this will be addressed, so that your customers can park, at least, knowing what the parking terms are before they choose to park and shop in your store.   As valued & loyal customers this is unfair and we kindly ask that you tell Athena to cancel this charge.   Thank you for your time in addressing this matter.  
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      I bought some clothes online in may through Evans and paid through PayPal
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Taken down to do some 'weeding' I suspect - good job I was subscribed prior ...


No Cagboooooots in me inbox, guess they havent got to trimming any of mine yet :p

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The last posting I read on email was a little, no a lot insulting towards a previous poster, so guess that's why it's been removed.


Yes I too hope the offending posts are removed and it is re-instated

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Yes B3 too many people throwing their rattles out of their prams it seems.


The site team have removed it and it is currently under review.


I suppose they could start a new thread for anyone that wants a rant and keep the original thread for exactly the purpose it was started.


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I believe that's going to happen but haven't yet decided on the thread title from


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How about?


"You say either and I say either, You say neither and I say neither

Either, either Neither, neither, Let's call the whole thing off."


But then doesn't this thread begin to lose it's originality!



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the thread is still there for me, but is closed.


yet no posts have been removed.


not sure what is going on here, nobody said anything libellous/slanderous


so why close it?


by far and away the most informative thread on here


and with all the test cases in the courts right now, it was the most important thread on here aswell.

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we are all (supposed to be) on the same side,


that does not mean that alternative views or interpretations of what has occurred cannot be put forward (even if they do appear to be batting for the other side)


we need devils advocates in order to stimulate our thinking and reasoning processes


all you have to do is not insult people for their views- but to simply debate them!!


football forums are a very good place to let off steam and you can slag off others and their views and use the foulest language without really upsettting anyone and then you can come back on here and behave like gentlemen (and ladies of course )

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Well its still there but closed,what a shame one of the best threads on here no doubt.

I hear cases are being adjourned pending some cases in the High Court in Manchester at the end of November,anyone know any info?

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