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My freind, on the 22 September 2009 revieved via post an Enforcement Letter from DVLA stating that the vehicle, a RED VAUXHALL CORSA registration mark P6** **Y. did not have a valid vehicle excise licence or SORN in force form 01/07/2009 (the tax ran out on 30/06/2009).

 

The are demanding he pays a fine of £80.

 

Thing is, the vehicle was seized (and a seizure notice is in hand) on 07/06/2009 at 09:20hrs.

 

So, from 07/06/2009, did West Yorkshire Police (via the seizure) become the owners of the vehicle.

 

If so, are they liable for the £80 fine, as they failed to re-tax or declare SORN on the vehicle.

 

Can the NEW KEEPER part of the enforcement letter be filled out with the details of West Yorkshire Police.

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The owner is not necesarily the same person as the registered keeper. For example, if you buy a car on HP, the HP company is the owner but you are the registered keeper until it is fully paid.

 

The registered keeper is responible for taxing or SORN.

 

In this case you are still the registered keeper and thus responsible for SWORN/taxing the car and so they are correct in fining you AFAIK.

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No. You remain liable for the car (for tax and insurance) until you advise the DVLA that you are no longer the keeper - but siezing the car by the police does not lift hte obligation on you. If it was off road in a compund, then you should have filled in the SORN notice and waited to re-tax when you arranged to get it back. Similarly, if it was damaged, whilst the police might be liable, it would be your insurer who would make them pay up after fixing whatever had gone wrong.

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No. You remain liable for the car (for tax and insurance) until you advise the DVLA that you are no longer the keeper - but siezing the car by the police does not lift hte obligation on you. If it was off road in a compund, then you should have filled in the SORN notice and waited to re-tax when you arranged to get it back. Similarly, if it was damaged, whilst the police might be liable, it would be your insurer who would make them pay up after fixing whatever had gone wrong.

 

The owner is not necesarily the same person as the registered keeper. For example, if you buy a car on HP, the HP company is the owner but you are the registered keeper until it is fully paid.

 

The registered keeper is responible for taxing or SORN.

 

In this case you are still the registered keeper and thus responsible for SWORN/taxing the car and so they are correct in fining you AFAIK.

 

 

Thank you for your replies.

 

So, Ok my friend is liable, fair enough.

 

What now then,

 

Do I advise him to fill out the New keeper section of the Log book with West Yorkshire Polices details, as they are now the keeper of the wehicle.

 

Does he go into the police station and ask an employee of West Yorkshire Police to sign the New Keeper section of the logbook?

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No the are NOT the 'keeper' as defined under Law. Additionally, you would require the Chief Constable (or an Inspector) to sign the V5C to achnowledge this, and that isn't going to happen. You don't say what purpose the vehicle has been taken... invariably, (unless for forensic purposes) it is local garages or agents that store vehicles on behalf of the police, and they do this for free - as their storage charges will be met by the cars owner (or insurer) on collection.

 

The issue of who the keeper is needs to be ascertained - if the vehicle is unlikely to be returned, then a declaration of scrapping can be made - and give the police as the agent responsible for scrapping it. No signature required.

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