diskmandave -vs- Central Ticketing ***WON WITH APOLOGY***

[MARTIN3030]

Further particulars to appear in business letters, order forms and websites

 

7.—(1) Every company shall disclose the particulars set out in paragraph (2) on—

(a) its business letters;

(b) its order forms; and

© its websites.

(2) The particulars are—

(a) the part of the United Kingdom in which the company is registered;

(b) the company’s registered number;

© the address of the company’s registered office;

(d) in the case of a limited company exempt from the obligation to use the word “limited” as part of its registered name under section 30 of the Companies Act 1985(3) or article 40 of the Companies (Northern) Ireland Order 1986(4), the fact that it is a limited company;

(e) in the case of a community interest company which is not a public company, the fact that it is a limited company; and

(f) in the case of an investment company within the meaning of section 833 of the Act, the fact that it is such a company.

[MARTIN3030]

Central Ticketing letterheads give the address as B16 6AX

 

 

According to their ICO licence this is not their R/O.

As a search confirms thus;

 

 

1. Welcome - Home :: Central Ticketing
    
    
   Parking management is a specialist challenge. ... Registered Office: Radclyffe House, 66-68 Hagley Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B16 8PF. ...
   http://www.central-ticketing.com - Cached
   

[postggj]

Whats The Matter Dave

 

No Dca Baiting This Week

[patrickq1]

Nahhh, I didn't buy the recorder Martin, the link provided

by BF doesn't offer the discount and in the absence of a

coupon code it's not a good deal compared to other retailers

on the internet.

 

I'm only going to buy one if I get the CAG discount, or CAG

gets a commission for the sale. Otherwise I can video any

outward calls on my computer.

 

Indeed, all other communication will have to be in writing

as I am actually heading somewhere with this now..

tight a*s dave also i notice ROXBOROUGH HOUSE our Pals MR Tunrbull hehe this is gonna be fun..i fink hehe

[diskmandave]

What's The Matter Dave

 

No Dca Baiting This Week

 

Haven't you read??

 

I've just joined the Cabot Fan Club!!

Just bought a Truecall machine too!! :D

 

CAGBOT is going to be a very busy boy!

 

Nonetheless, joking aside, please let's not take this off topic,

my Cabot threads are in the DCA Forum..

[diskmandave]

What I'm getting at Martin is, shouldn't their Registered Address

be on their Parking Charge Notices rather than the PO Box, as I'm

sure they will claim that they are indeed an official document?

[postggj]

Realy Dave

 

I Got A Welcome Letter From Crappyquest For A Statute Barred Account From 1998

 

Beat That:lol:

[MARTIN3030]

What I'm getting at Martin is, shouldn't their Registered Address

be on their Parking Charge Notices rather than the PO Box, as I'm

sure they will claim that they are indeed an official document?

 

 

Absolutely Dave-the regs appear to cover this point quite clearly...and the ticket is within itself a demand or notification for payment.

 

 

 

(e)

its bills of parcels, invoices and other demands for payment, receipts and letters of credit;

[lamma]

A £1000 fine is in the offing for them if they get reported for this.

[diskmandave]

A £1000 fine is in the offing for them if they get reported for this.

 

The words, "bull", and, "red rag" have just sprung to mind!!

 

Is it a Trading Standards complaint??

Edited October 22, 2009 by diskmandave

[diskmandave]

Trading Standards it is then!!

 

 

Trading Standards,

Ladbrooke House,

Bordesley Street,

Digbeth,

Birmingham B5 5BL.

 

October 23rd 2009

Att: Copy of documents

 

Re: Central Ticketing,

PO Box 12655,

Birmingham,

B16 6AX.

 

Dear Sirs,

 

I have received a, "paking ticket" from Central Ticketing, they have a

Birmingham address which is why I have written you. The, "parking ticket"

won't be difficult to deal with, as I am

aware that it is nothing more than a threatening invoice.

 

However, whilst completing some basic research it has been brought to my

attention that this so called parking ticket is indeed a notice, a bill, an

invoice, AND a demand for payment and

as such should give their registered address;

 

Requirement to display registered name at registered office and inspection place

3.—(1) A company shall display its registered name at—

(a)

its registered office; and

(b)

any inspection place.

6.—(1) Every company shall disclose its registered name on—

(a)

its business letters, notices and other official publications;

(e)

its bills of parcels, invoices and other demands for payment, receipts and letters of credit;

 

Please find attached a copy of the back and front of the,"parking ticket", it

is an exact digital copy and only my private details have been obscured,

which can be supplied on request.

 

This is therefore, a formal complaint against Central Ticketing for the

reason stated above. Should you need my permission to process my

personal data, you may treat this letter as a release and authority to do

so puruant to the Data Protection Act 1998.

 

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

Letter gone to Birmingham Trading Standards 10 minutes ago...

[lamma]

The Companies (Trading Disclosures) Regulations 2008 No. 495

[diskmandave]

Thanks lamma,

 

Letter has been posted already using the same Reg's..

 

[MARTIN3030]

Yep-Birmingham trading Standards

Office of Fair Trading and what about the MOJ ??????

 

While were at it CPUT too-they must be breaking some codes of practice somewhere along the line.

[spitfire650]

The Companies (Trading Disclosures) Regulations 2008 No. 495

 

I submitted a complaint to Companies House last month against another parking [EDIT] for exactly the same reason, here is the response I received back:

 

Thank you for your email with the copy of the PCN. We have received several complaints regarding these notices issued by different companies. Our Legal Department has advised us that PCNs are in fact invoices issued on behalf of the company and as such only need carry the name of the company. The PCN you have supplied correctly states the name of the company so there is no breach of company legislation.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Dominic Roberts

Case Manager

Technical Offences Team

Apparently the Companies House lawyers consider these "invoices" too ...

[diskmandave]

HMMM ?

 

(e)

its bills of parcels, invoices and other demands for payment, receipts and letters of credit;

[spitfire650]

Sorry if I misread your post Dave, was the complaint about not displaying the registered office address or the company name?

 

The section your refer to above only requires the company name displayed on invoices which these people appear to do.

 

Please don't get me wrong, I am not defending these scumbags, I hate PPC's just as much as you do - read my thread at: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/221818-tps-parking-solutions-limited.html

Edited October 23, 2009 by spitfire650

[lamma]

HMMM ?

 

(e)

its bills of parcels, invoices and other demands for payment, receipts and letters of credit;

 

Exactly. Remind Companies House of this. As their lawyers have declared them to be invoices why are they not acting when the legislation is clear and their own lawyers are clearly of the opinion that these are invoices. Add in any letters you get asking for payment as these are clearly "and other demands for payment".

[Prawns25]

The way I read it, they only have to disclose their registered name on invoices. No requirement for address.

[spitfire650]

The way I read it, they only have to disclose their registered name on invoices. No requirement for address.

 

Is there an alternative interpretation?

[Prawns25]

Requirement to display registered name at registered office and inspection place.

Could be read as and instead of at.

[lamma]

Wait for their first letter then use S.7 then S.9 then S.10

[diskmandave]

Requirement to display registered name at registered office and inspection place

3.—(1) A company shall display its registered name at—

(a)

its registered office; and

(b)

any inspection place.

6.—(1) Every company shall disclose its registered name on—

(a)

its business letters, notices and other official publications;

(e)

its bills of parcels, invoices and other demands for payment, receipts and letters of credit;

 

I thought that was pretty straight forward, but lets just wait and

see what Birmingham Trading Standards come back with and leave

it at that for now.

[car2403]

Companies House will be interested

[diskmandave]

Companies House will be interested

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/226388-diskmandave-central-ticketing-4.html#post2523166

(post #65)

 

Let's wait and see what Birmingham Trading Standards come back with..

Edited October 24, 2009 by diskmandave
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