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    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
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    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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sorry i am new to all this.. not sure its in the right place, anyway.

we brought a car from yes car credit back in 2002/2003. go debt are really keeping on at us, at work and home. thing is we gave the car back, we paid over half for it ,that was one of the conditions if you pay over half back then decide you dont want the car thats the end of it...nothing more to pay. yes car credit go bust then go bebt start harrasing us.. hes phoneing back at 3pm today,if we cant come up with anything they are sending someone around... i am really scaered...:eek: oh and the £3000 they say we owe, will go upto £5000 if we cant pay today.

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No one will come round

 

Tell him you will not discuss any more financial matters on the phone.

 

Refuse to answer their security questions.

 

Tell them that uyou will not respond to anything unless its in writing.

 

If you do speak to them tell them they have no right to send anyone round without your invitation, and if they do you will call the police as they will be trespassing.

 

Be really strong, they have NO rights, only a court can order you to pay money.

 

Someone with more experience will clarify the legal issues.

 

Dont panic, dont be scared, dont talk to them.

 

If need be tell them to go away in whatever words you want to use.

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OK dont panic, first get a draft of the Harrassment letter of to them sharpish.

If they do want to come round, a nice hosepipe squirt should do the trick,:D

Keep a copy handy for anyone that turns up , ( they probably wont)

Do you have your original paperwork that states you could give the vehicle back? You'll statements as well.

So, try to stay calm.

They are just hassling you for the money at this stage, you need to get on the front foot with these cretins.

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Ask for advice from your local CAB, they will stop the harrassment and investigate the details for you. One important point never ever talk to the braindead on the telephone or engage with them if they call at your home.

 

Alternatively, if you can scan the original agreement (Deleting Your personal details) I will have a look at it and pass an opinion. In addition, if you don't have details of the payments made, write and ask for a setailed statement of account.

 

And importantly stand up to them if they call in the interim period.

 

Remember DCA's are not the brightest buttons in the box and depend on fear tacticts over the phone.

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i keep asking for copies of any paper work, but nothing yet. we did have the original paperwork somewhere, been decorating.. cab said we have to pay it as its the insurance we need to pay back. we didnt take out any insrance that i know off.

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Rocky, what way have you asked for documents? If its by telephone then you'll get nothing, everything you do from now on will need to be in writing. On what authority did CAB say you have to pay this back? Did they have a copy of the original paperwork? I think not. So has this company threatened you with court in any way? If so, you can use CPR request to get the documents. If not, then maybe a SAR will get what you need.

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Rocky, what way have you asked for documents? If its by telephone then you'll get nothing, everything you do from now on will need to be in writing. On what authority did CAB say you have to pay this back? Did they have a copy of the original paperwork? I think not. So has this company threatened you with court in any way? If so, you can use CPR request to get the documents. If not, then maybe a SAR will get what you need.

 

yes we showed them the paper work,

they just phoned, and i said i did not want to speak on the phone and to put anything in writing..hung up.. he phoned straight back and said that was rude wasnt it!:rolleyes:

he said right i am sending someone round to the house. i said good the police will be waiting.. he said fine phone them now if you want... he also said we will get our money..:x

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Yes this twerp sounds like he needs his ar*e kicking, well try to enjoy the conversations, call into question parentage or sexual preferences if you wish, Other than that, as Volvo says, until they issue court papers its not too serious.

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what happens if and when they do issue court letters? when we took the car back 3 hour trip away,, we said right now you have the car and its all signed over to you, is that it we owe nothing now, he said yes thats it you owe nothing.. so i dont know where any of this has come from?..

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Go Debt purchase old and delinquent and non existant debts, the sort that there is no hope of collecting and then try to frighten and harras to get payments.

 

As said above, stir them up if they continue to phone and if they say they will send someone around, ask if he take sugar in his coffee and will he be wanting biscuits.

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