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    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
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    • You could send an SAR to DCbl on the pretext that you are going for a breach of your GDPR . They should then send the purported letter of discontinuance which may show why it ended up in Gloucester and see if you can get your  costs back on the day. It obviously won't be much but  at least perhaps a small recompense for your wasted day. Not exactly wasted since you had a great win  albeit much sweeter if you had beat them in Court. But a win is a win so well done. We will miss you as it has been almost two years since you first started out on this mission. { I would n't be surprised if the wrong Court was down to DCBL}. I see you said "till the next time" but I am guessing you will be avoiding private patrolled car parks for a while.🙂
    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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All The Regular Caggers Who Have Been Following The Main Welcome Thread Know That Welcomes Weaknes Is In Its Insurance Racket.

 

When You Apply For Finance, Why Is It Do You Think The Agreement Is Thrust Under Your Nose With All These Micky Mouse Insurance Products On It.

 

Welcome Are The Agents On These Policies

Its Called Welcome Elite Brokers And Take A Nice Back Hander Of 17-20%commission

 

They Pass The Lot Up To Direct Group As A Smoke Screen To Hide This And Give Welcome An Air Of Being Respectable

 

So Not Only Do They Shaft You On The Apr Being A Front Loaded Payment, They Pay Them Self Commission For Shafting You

 

And At The End Of The Day Its The Customer Paying For This

 

Now How Menny Agreements Do Welcome Have

which National Paper Is Doing The Number On Cattles At The Moment

 

All The Pieces Have Now Fallen Into Place

 

Me Thinks A Long Chat With Dipply Is In Order On This

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Oh I see! Well it seems Welcome have sealed their own fate cos they sent me those documents as part of the sar. They sent me a whole load of rubbish I'd never seen before, but apparently it wasn't rubbish after all!!! They so stoopid!

 

I want to thank everybody for now being able to justify being a hoarder and never throwing anything away regardless of how useless it may seem :p:p:p

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WANNABEDEBTFREE

 

ILL DO A BRIEF EXPLANATION

 

A FINANCE CO, IN THIS CASE WELCOME, CANT DO COMMISSION PAYMENTS TO BROKERS, (IN THIS CASE THEMSELF) AND NOT DECLARE IT TO THE BORROWER.

ALL COMMISSION PAYMENTS HAVE TO BE DECLARED ON THE AGREEMENT

 

AS IT STANDS, WELCOME AGREEMENTS ARE CRAP, DEFUNKED,

 

have a nose and we have the proof

 

Wilson v Hurstanger | OUT-LAW.COM by Pinsent Masons LLP

 

we all knew this was the case in welcomes agreements but it was just one step ahead of us

 

now we have it

 

letter to oft

fos

fsa

 

on its way

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ell- Enn

 

if You Are Out There Or Any Insurance People

 

can A Finance Company Also Be An Insurance Broker.

can A Finance Company Do A Loan And Put In Its Own Insurance Products

 

ime Thinking

 

conflict Of Interest

not Operating In The Customers Best Interest

 

any Incling To Put AnOther Nail In The Coffin

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They may be allowed to be a "broker" but that would imply they compare the market and suggest the best deal.... i.e. they can't just insist it's their product or none at all. Isn't that the same basis as mis-sold PPI

 

You'd be best to ring the FSA maybe?

 

I'm not well-read on insurance problems (yet!)

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WANNABEDEBTFREE

 

ILL DO A BRIEF EXPLANATION

 

A FINANCE CO, IN THIS CASE WELCOME, CANT DO COMMISSION PAYMENTS TO BROKERS, (IN THIS CASE THEMSELF) AND NOT DECLARE IT TO THE BORROWER.

ALL COMMISSION PAYMENTS HAVE TO BE DECLARED ON THE AGREEMENT

 

AS IT STANDS, WELCOME AGREEMENTS ARE CRAP, DEFUNKED,

 

have a nose and we have the proof

 

Wilson v Hurstanger | OUT-LAW.COM by Pinsent Masons LLP

 

we all knew this was the case in welcomes agreements but it was just one step ahead of us

 

now we have it

 

letter to oft

fos

fsa

 

on its way

 

Hello Post,

Been doing some reading and I have to admit it gets interestinger and interestinger! So if I'm right do I have a case for secret commission?? If I do then it leaves Welcome open to investigation for all their other agreements?? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still a newbie :-)

 

So now they really can't take my car :-D8-):-D8-):grin:

 

I trust you'll keep me informed on what I should do next.

 

I can't believe the gravity of all this! I'm so happy, I'm so happy!!!

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in your insurance paperwork

this would have been sent from a company called direct group,

do you have an underwriting sheet showing any commission payments to a broker

 

its a long shot but welcome will slip up one of these days:)

 

I wonder what made you ask me this question??

 

Divine intervention methinks!!

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If it is parked on private property, and they turn up without a court order, call the police. Tell them that you forbid them to step onto your property, and you WILL have them in court on a charge of trespass, and if they touch the vehicle, you will add criminal damage to the mix.

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