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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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    • Your topic title was altered last June 23 by the owner of this forum in the interests of the forum Anyway well done on your result and thank you for concluding your topic, title updated.   Andy   .
    • So what    Why ? Consent Order/ Confidentiality ? This would be be invaluable to followers of your topic.  
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Not sure if this is the right forum but I have had lots of good advice on other matters so may be someone has something to share.

 

I have an ugly Potterton Kingfisher boiler that has the flue directly into the (unused) chimney stack. Boiler supplies hot water and central heating. I have lived in this house for 22 years and the boiler was here before me. We have had the Homecare contract since day one and the boiler gets serviced mainly in August every year. The contract has been good value in so much that the times the unit has gone wrong (1 pump and 2 thermocouplings) the fix has always straightforward and simple.

 

So Mr Gasman calls last week to do service. Opens cupboard that's been there two years (ventilated cupboard in new kitchen hardware) and says..... someones been drilling holes in the flue. Yes I replied previous gasmen ... it's how they tested for CO. Gasman looks at me says they never did, switches off boiler and gives me a note not to use the boiler. Before I argue he's off.

 

Anyway I talk to their service manager he agrees in the old days they did that but for £300 they can replace the flue. I refuse to pay as I say they drilled the holes not me and I want hot water !

 

Today the Area Service Manager and Senior Techie turn up to look at the offending flue. Yes they would have drilled the holes (incidentally filled with fire putty) but guess what the flue is too short by todays standards. So not only will they have to replace the flue but also knock out another hole in the chimney stack one foot higher. Estimate £650.

 

Looking around the kitchin he spots the double glazing. The two do that thing I only thought builders do, shaking their heads and tutting. The airgap in the venting is below regulatory standards. I produce the Certificates from the 2003 installation to be told it was alright then but....

I also mention the open grill in the far wall (luckily this is uncovered normally it is covered to cut down the draught) - that doesn't count as it's not an outside wall (er yes it is - an open ended passage way that connects mine and my neighbours front gardens to the back). They now need to re-site the boiler on an outer wall. Estimate £3500.

 

I appreciate that regulations change but how can a 60 year old house keep up with these changes and how do I know what they are. Feeling very unkind things about British Gas at the moment. No boiler and the feeling that they are just trying to generate revenue.

 

Anybody had similar experiences ?

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Wilba,

 

I know what you mean. As of around 3 months ago, Corgi no longer regulate the gas industry, but the gas safe register do, and as i'm led to understand new rules came in. Basically, BG are just covering their selves. If you were to have a carbon monoxide leak, and BG hadn't taken this harsh action to point out tiny problems then you could sue them for plenty. They don't care if you do this work with them, or get someone else to do it. They just need to make sure there isn't anything remotely dodgy about your system which could cause them a headache in the future.

 

Did the engineer advise you that the system is "Not to current standards" or "Unsafe" ?

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Hi MrHandyman,

 

The advisory note he left 'is not to current standards'.

 

I have had another independent engineer visit and he has tested boiler and it is well within required limits. He has also fitted a Carbon Monoxide alarm though he believes the ventilation is sufficient. He has agreed to service boiler every six months for the same price as BG's 1 service annual price.

 

The only downside as I can see is if a major component breaks down it will probably cost an arm and a leg.

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If it is "not to current standards" that means that it is not up to date with ever changing regulations, but is still perfectly ok to use! I have family members who are gas engineers, and I doubt some of their systems would be to the current high standards BG ask for.

 

In BG, they have "not to current standards" every day, and I can honestly say it is nothing to worry about.

 

If you are wanting the service only, BG do it from around £60 - £90 a year depending on where you live. That could be a better option depending on what you pay for your independant engineer.

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