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    • I can only speak from personal experience. But a similar thing happened to me. Seriously dented door.  I made the other insurance pay. They regarded it as a write off. Took the money, replaced the door. Never heard anything more about it.    Except clearly someone sold my details to claims company, because I got loads of calls in bad English for a few month's 
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    • Just to enlarge on Dave's great rundown of your case under Penalty. In the oft quoted case often seen on PCNs,  viz PE v Beavis while to Judges said there was a case for claiming that £100 was a penalty, this was overruled in this case because PE had a legitimate interest in keeping the car park free for other motorists which outweighed the penalty. Here there is no legitimate interest since the premises were closed. Therefore the charge is a penalty and the case should be thrown out for that reason alone.   The Appeals dept need informing about what and what isn't a valid PCN. Dummies. You should also mention that you were unable to pay by Iphone as there was no internet connection and there was a long  queue to pay on a very busy day . There was no facility for us to pay from the time of our arrival only the time from when we paid at the machine so we felt that was a bit of a scam since we were not parked until we paid. On top of that we had two children to load and unload in the car which should be taken into account since Consideration periods and Grace periods are minimum time. If you weren't the driver and PoFA isn't compliant you are off scot free since only the driver is liable and they are saying it was you. 
    • Thank you dx. I consider myself well and truly told :) x Thank you dx. I consider myself well and truly told :) x
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The reason the bailiff is asking is because s/he is probably on commission . You do know that bailiffs are self employed and work on commission dont you ?

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Thanks. I kind of had an idea that was the case.

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Update. Have written to JBW and copied to council concerned. They were given a week to respond but have heard nothing. The next stage is the form four. I would guess that there are existing threads on how to fill out a Form 4 for the county court regarding the excessive fees charged by bailiffs. If so, could someone post the link? Thanks

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Thank you for your reply.

Yes I did get a PCN and the appeal was rejected.

The £137.88 for the PCN and court costs, I do not dispute. The bailiff charges I do.

The bailiff texted me the breakdown -

£54.34 levy fee

£240.00 attendance/enforcement of warrant

£50.00 clamp fee

£175.00 tow truck fee

£30.00 vehicle hpi check

Plus vehicle storage and VAT

 

Yes I called the Ministry of Justice and he is certificated, to JBW and his certificate is still valid.

 

As there is a daily storage charge, the amount 'owed' is rising. It is advisable to pay and dispute later?

 

You have said that you appealed this PCN and that the appeal was rejected. Was this "appeal" at the Notice to Owner stage and if so did you receive a formal rejection?

 

With the formal rejection ( assuming that you received this) did the response include details of how to make a further appeal to the adjudicator?

 

 

If you did not receive a formal rejection then you are entitled to file an Out of Time late Statutory Declaration. This will ensure that all enforcement action will cease.

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You have said that you appealed this PCN and that the appeal was rejected. Was this "appeal" at the Notice to Owner stage and if so did you receive a formal rejection?

 

With the formal rejection ( assuming that you received this) did the response include details of how to make a further appeal to the adjudicator?

 

 

If you did not receive a formal rejection then you are entitled to file an Out of Time late Statutory Declaration. This will ensure that all enforcement action will cease.

 

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Thanks but I am afraid it didn't get to that stage. I appealed at the first stage and it was rejected. The Notice to Owner stage came after this.

I am looking to fill out a Form 4 ASAP on the grounds of excessive fees, unreasonable and inadequate amount of time afforded to make a payment before seizing my car (as there was no contact with the bailiff at all; he simply found that I wasn't in on his first visit and took the car). It will soon be two weeks now that they have had my car. There has been no reply at all to my complaint This was done by email. They later confirmed receipt of it and an investigation. This week I texted a request for an update on the amount owed - no reply.

A payment was made by credit card by phone, however it has been placed into a temporary account by the card company awaiting acceptance by JBW i.e.it seems they are not accepting payment. As I said earlier, since the letter of complaint there has been no contact from them at all.

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If you want i can sort this out for you. All you be liable for is costs ie court costs etc for issuing summons and so on. I already have helped people gain 4 wins against this sort of company. The last thing that they want is to be publicly laughed at again.

So whats cooking today ?

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If you want i can sort this out for you. All you be liable for is costs ie court costs etc for issuing summons and so on. I already have helped people gain 4 wins against this sort of company. The last thing that they want is to be publicly laughed at again.

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Yes, I'd be grateful.

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