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Hi all,

 

So, i'm back from holiday and a few hard weeks at work and a "Friend" has asked me to get the word out on this.

 

On Friday, he parked in a Car Park in Aylesbury (P&D, run by th Council). He realised he didn't have change for the machine so went to a shop just up the road to get some. When he came back, he found a parking ticket on his car. He then approached the CEO (who was still stood in the car park by the machine) and tried to explain the situation to her. Both sides got a bit heated, at which point the CEO started agressively thrusting her hand at the sign.

 

My "Friend" gets his phone out to photograph the CEO/Sign. The CEO starts shouting "You Can't Photograph Me" and lashes out with her notepad, slapping the phone to the side and then she strikes him in the face with the notepad.

 

I then approach as she looks like she may hit him again, and say she has assaulted a member of the public and that I am going to call the police. While I am dialing 999, she says "two can play at that game" and gets on her radio and heads off up the street.

 

Sufficed to say, my "Friend" has complained to the Council re. the CEOs actions and is considering following through on the assault charge.

 

 

He has also asked me to ask a question re. the ticket:

He was parked in XYZ "Street (ABC Yard) Car Park" (This is on the Parking order). The ticket states "XYZ Street Car Park". The parking order that covers the Car Park he was in also has an entry for "XYZ Street" as a seperate parking area.

 

Would this discrepancy invalidate the ticket?

 

Thanks,

H

 

 


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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How many car parks are there on ABC street, not including the street itself? If there's just this one, I don't think it makes any difference.

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what about CCTV i bet there's one

might be able to get the footage via SAR? or freedom of info act?

 

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How many car parks are there on ABC street, not including the street itself? If there's just this one, I don't think it makes any difference.

On XYZ Street, officially none - the car park access is from ABC Yard (another road off of ABC Street). On the Council Asset register, the carpark is ABC Yard. On the Parking order it is "XYZ Street (ABC Yard)".

 

The same Parking Order ccovers the on-street pparking on XYZ Street.

 

Out of interest, did the police turn up and take a statement?

The police did turn up in under 5 minutes, it was actually one of the Armed response units :|

 

No statement has been taken yet - the police wanted him to go to the station and when he did, there was no one "able to take a statement" available.

 

what about CCTV i bet there's one

might be able to get the footage via SAR? or freedom of info act?

 

dx

There is a CCTV Camera on a tall pole right by the sign in the car park. At the time, it was pointing up the street and the CEO/"Friend" would not have been in shot.

 

 

Thanks for the replies so far!

 

H


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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Bumpy,

 

is it worth putting in an appeal based on the discrepancy of the car ark name?

 

H


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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In my view, only if there is more than one car park which could be described as "XYZ Street Car Park". If this is the only one which could fit that description (I realise it's not accurate!!) then I think it would be bound to fail.

 

If there's more than one, you might find that the wrong location has been entered.

 

Having said this, an appeal will only cost a stamp, so you've nothing to lose either way.

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In my view, only if there is more than one car park which could be described as "XYZ Street Car Park". If this is the only one which could fit that description (I realise it's not accurate!!) then I think it would be bound to fail.

 

If there's more than one, you might find that the wrong location has been entered.

 

Having said this, an appeal will only cost a stamp, so you've nothing to lose either way.

 

Thanks Jamberson, I think my friend will put in an appeal given that the same parking order covers the street...


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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on-street and off-street in the same order ? that fairly unusual. can the order be posted up please.

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on-street and off-street in the same order ? that fairly unusual. can the order be posted up please.

 

There it is, the bit about the road is in schedule 2

Aylesbury 2008 Off-Street Parking Places Order FINAL as made 31.3.08.doc


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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That is just a list of "AYLESBURY STREETS IN WHICH RESIDENTIAL OCCUPIERS MAY APPLY FOR AN OLD TOWN RESIDENT’S PERMIT"

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OK, so my friend has put in an informal appeal - didn't even cost a stamp as he hand delivered it!

 

H


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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what about the assault?

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what about the assault?

 

Just got to send in a Witness Statement type thing to the council


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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Just got to send in a Witness Statement type thing to the council

 

Why are you sending a statement to the Council - assault is a Police matter

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have you given a statement to the Police about your assault, yet?

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have you given a statement to the Police about your assault, yet?

 

Basically, the police really didn't want to investigate it and my "friend" decided it would be a good idea to show some good will and not pursue a complaint of assaultwith the Police.

 

However, he has made a complaint to the council and they have asked me to provide a written account of what happened. They seem to be taking this seriously.

 

H


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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not to sound cynical but good will to whom exactly?

 

The sceptic in me in telling me this "friend" wasn't really assaulted.

 

I can imagine not reporting something like this if you were in danger or from fear of retribution, but a bloody traffic warden? Throw the book at them!

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not to sound cynical but good will to whom exactly?

 

The sceptic in me in telling me this "friend" wasn't really assaulted.

 

I can imagine not reporting something like this if you were in danger or from fear of retribution, but a bloody traffic warden? Throw the book at them!

 

Basically, the polie didn't really want to investigate it at the time and when he made a trip to the police station to give a statement, there was no one there to take a statement. He doesn't want the hassle of trying to persuade the local police to look into something they don't want to.

 

He was also only looking for an appology, and for the CEO to realise she was in the wrong.

 

 

Well, that sceptic in you is being quite rude. I came here to get advice for my friend, not to, basically, be called a liar/my friend to be called a liar.

 

H


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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I do apologise if you thought I was being rude, that wasn't my intention and I am sorry.

 

The thing is assault is very serious, even if the police didn't want to investigate, unfortunately that is their job and they should be doing it if you told them you wanted it investigated.

 

I just think it's strange that she hit him in the face with a notepad and he/she doesn't care.

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I do apologise if you thought I was being rude, that wasn't my intention and I am sorry.

 

The thing is assault is very serious, even if the police didn't want to investigate, unfortunately that is their job and they should be doing it if you told them you wanted it investigated.

 

I just think it's strange that she hit him in the face with a notepad and he/she doesn't care.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong, he is taking it seriously and does care. The fact that the police didn't want to investigate is a barrier so the easiest way to have this CEO "dealt with" is a complaint to the council. The council are taking it seriously, and the CEO has refused to apologise, both formally and informally.

 

H


I am not a lawyer - I'm an Engineer with an interest in law. Advice is given with out prejudice and is my opinion on the information I have been provided with based on my experience, understanding and interpritation of law. If you are in any doubt please seek the advice of a qualified and insured legal professional.

 

Victories:

Abbey (OH) - £680 ..... Barclaycard (OH) - £2200 ..... MBNA (OH) - £1800 ..... Shop Direct (OH) - £220

Brunell Franklin (a.k.a. Conkers) - Out of "contract" & no charge

:D

 

In Progress:

MBNA (OH) - PPI & bad default with premature termination

Capital One (OH) - ~£800 Penalty Charges

Suzuki Finance/Blackhorse (OH) - Commission, Unlawful removal, PPI, Charges

 

A Lightbulb Shop - "loss of bargain"

 

If i've helped, please feel free to hit the star ;)

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You need to go back to the old bill and if they won't take a statement, ask to speak to a senior officer. Be polite but insistent. Make sure you record the names of the officers you speak to. If they still won't take the matter seriously then you should warn them that you will make a formal complaint to the IPCC. Be prepared to do so if they still won't play ball.


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yes, thats the way- and insist on a crime number

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In my opinion you will get further with the complaint if you have reported it to the police becuase should it go further everyone is inevitably going to ask "Why if you were assaulted did you not report it?"

 

Are you just contesting the parking ticket ?

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