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    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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Hi,

 

I'm new on here after being recommended by a friend.

 

Just wondering if anyone has had dealings with First Plus?

 

Its a long story, but basically, I took out a loan with them in 2006, and then after 24 months settled it early and my settlement figure was nearly £2,000.00 MORE than the initial loan that I took out. I had repaid them over £3,000.00 during the 24 months that I had the loan, which they seemed to have failed to take into account when calculating my settlement figure.

 

I have been fighting with them for over eight months and every letter they send back to me quotes different figures to what I actually signed up for.

 

Has anyone else had dealings with First Plus? They really are an absolute nightmare and I would advise anyone to stay well clear of them.

 

What are the chances of getting my money back?

 

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A lot of info will be found by googling firstpluscomplaints

 

If they used the Rule of 78, which they should not have then it is likely you were penalised too heavily.

 

Ask them for full disclosure on the s/f charge.

 

There are a lot of issues out there with FP and they are trading with difficulty at the moment so every penny gained from a customer is a penny less that they have lost.

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Thanks Mark for your reply.

 

I will try what you have suggested as I am determined to try to get back some of my money. The initial loan was for £12,000.00 and I repaid over £3,000.00 over 24 months. When I asked for a copy of my settlement figure, they had lumped almost £39,000.00 up front for the interest! God knows where they had plucked this figure from as it is certainly not mentioned anywhere in my credit agreement.

 

They also fail to take into account my repayments of over £3,000.00 in their settlment figure.

 

I would never ever go near First Plus again and would advise anyone who is thinking of taking out a loan with them to think twice.

 

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Hi,

 

How can I find out if my First Plus Loan was settled using the Rule 78?

 

I've checked all my paperwork, and the Agreement that was dated January 2006 (the date that I initially took out the loan) states that if I settle early then they will settle under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

 

However, when I received a letter last week asking how my settlement figure was calculated in February 2008, it stated they had calculated it based on the Consumer Credit Act (Early Settlement Figure) 2004.

 

Which one is correct? Does anyone know?

 

This is such a frustrating situation as from what I have read on this forum and other forums, First Plus really do like to rip people off. As stated above in my previous post, surely it is not correct that my settlement figure, after paying over £3,000.00 back to them over 24 months, was almost £2,000.00 MORE than the initial loan.

 

Where do I go from here? First Plus seem to have backed me into a corner with this one.

 

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First Plus are no longer offering loans, they are only surviving due to support from Barclays and are being investigated on many fronts ranging from the misselling of PPI to the fairness (or not ) of their interest rate clause. They have a provision of £8m in their accounts that they expect to have to pay to successful PPI complainees.

 

Re settlements, you are lucky in that your loan was regulated so they cannot do anything other than follow specific guidelines for settlement. Standard calculations would show ALL the interest due to the end of the loan then rebate what is allowable under the caluclation.

 

As you were relatively early in your loan in terms of settlement then it is standard in how interest is apportioned that you would not have cleared off that much capital in 2 yrs. That said, the settlement figure quoted does seem excessive. Have you spoken directly to them? Louisa Jane Hart is one of their remaining people and whilst she obviously tows the party line, it does not detract from her being able to help 02920905507 is her number. Ask for full statement and breakdown.

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Hi All,

I have no direct involvement with FP but check out my thread called Swift advances PLC and in terms of nightmare early settlement calculations Swift make FP look like pussycats!

Swift do use the Rule of 78 ( I took my loan out in 2003) but this is being removed in May 2010 as part of an overhaul of the regulations.

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