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    • I've looked through all our old NPE threads, and as far as we know they have never had the bottle to do court. There are no guarantees of course, but when it comes to put or shut up they definitely tend towards shut up. How about something like -   Dear Jonathan and Julie, Re: PCN no.XXXXX cheers for your Letter Before Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea that you actually expected me to take this tripe seriously and cough up. I'll write to you not some uninterested third party, thanks all the same, because you have are the ones trying to threaten me about this non-existent "debt". Go and look up Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd, saddos.  Oh, while you're at it, go and look up your Subject Access Request obligations - we all know how you ballsed that up way back in January to March. Dear, dear, dear - you couldn't resist adding your £70 Unicorn Food Tax, you greedy gets.  Judges don't like these made-up charges, do they? You can either drop this foolishness now or get a hell of a hammering in court.  Both are fine with me.  Summer is coming up and I would love a holiday at your expense after claiming an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g). I look forward to your deafening silence.   That should show them you're not afraid of them and draw their attention to their having legal problems of their own with the SAR.  If they have any sense they'll crawl back under their stone and leave you in peace.  Over the next couple of days invest in a 2nd class stamp (all they are worth) and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office.
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    • Hi All, I just got in from work and received a letter dated 24 April 2024. "We've sent you a Single Justice Procedure notice because you have been charged with an offence, on the Transport for London Network." "You need to tell us whether you are guilty or not guilty. This is called making your plea."
    • Okay please go through the disclosure very carefully. I suggest that you use the technique broadly in line with the advice we give on preparing your court bundle. You want to know what is there – but also very importantly you want to know what is not there. For instance, the email that they said they sent you before responding to the SAR – did you see that? Is there any trace of of the phone call that you made to the woman who didn't know anything about SAR's? On what basis was the £50 sent to you? Was it unilateral or did they offer it and you accepted it on some condition? When did they send you this £50 cheque? Have you banked it? Also, I think that we need to start understanding what you have lost here. Have you lost any money – and if so how much? Send the SAR to your bank as advised above
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Hi new to the forum so would just like to say a big hi everyone first.

 

I have been recieving letters and phone calls from BCW and would like to know if there is anything i can do to stop them from calling me and sending me threatning letters demanding £291.06 from me.

 

I need to explain my situation, I do not know if i actually owe this money to Eon my previous gas and electricity supplier so i have been in dispute with them for months over what im supposedly due and if i am due anything.

 

Eon claim i owe them £291.06 from back in 2007 but have never asked me for this money untill i moved house and changed suppliers 5 or 6 months ago and when i phoned them to ask where this debt appeared from asking for proof of this i was told back in 2007 i defaulted on payments which caused my account to end up in arears but i also clearly recall my father paying a large bill to the full amount around this same time with his credit card to Eon.

 

Eon sent me utility bills but this wasnt what i asked for i asked for a list of payments recieved by myself on those accounts since this debt occured which i have never recieved and also do not know if they able to provide this hence the dispute.

 

I now have buchanan clark and wells phoning me every couple of days sometimes twice a day demanding payment telling me that they have taken on the debt from the original client Eon.

 

When speaking to them they seem to be only interested in getting the most amount of money from me and when i refuse to accept the amounts they ask i end up with an earfull of abuse only to have the phone hung up on me.

 

Ive also had them swear at me down the phone threatening me of court action aswell as threatening me to send people to my door to which my reply has been take me to court or send someone to my door can you provide proof of this debt i owe but they refuse to prove this to me by telling me we dont need to prove anything to you, you owe us money if you want that information contact our clients Eon i then asked them if i have to contact Eon then what am i doing talking to them they hung up yet again.

 

I decided regardless if i owe this amount or not i wont get any peace and quiet from these people untill i pay the full amount so i contacted Eon around 2 weeks ago and spoke to someone about this £291.06 i was told it was passed onto a collections agency i then explained to whoever i was speaking to at the time that i refused to deal with these abusive bullies and said i would only deal with Eon themselves that i could pay £50 every fortnight or £100 per month to them untill the debt was clear, the lady then told me she could set up a payment plan and as long as i paid the full amount owed by 1 january 2010 then i can pay whenever as long as the full amount was paid by that date and was also told she could send me a prepayment card to make these payments so i agreed as it makes life more easier for me to either pay by debit/credit card or prepayment.

 

I recieved a letter from Eon with this agreement dated 9 july 2009 signed by a Jacqueline Hale (Customer Service) but i still recieve calls from BCW and when i explain this to them im told that i can only pay the money direct to them and then im asked if i would want to set up a payment plan, I refuse to deal with BCW and have also told them this but recently i contacted Eon yet again to enquire about where this prepayment card was to be only told sorry you cant pay us its been passed onto a collections agency and when i tried to explain the agreement i was yet again told you'll have to talk to BCW as its been cancelled, i also asked who cancelled the agreement and was told sorry but i do not know as i dont have access or it doesnt say who cancelled this agreement.

 

So now im at the stage where i want to pay a bill im not sure if i even owe to the original company but they refuse to take payments etc after making an agreement which i have in headed paper but at the same time dont want to deal with a company who cant treat me with respect whilst contacting me at my home asking for my money bullying me with empty threats of legal action ive even considered changing my phone number just for peace but refuse to let them get to me so what can i do as i dont know what else i can do.

 

Sorry for the long post and look forward to any replies or help provided

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hi and welcome to cag.

forget EON they are not interested and will not help as the debt has been passed on.

 

do not call them again they have already confused you by arranging a repayment plan,which was not going to happen,all they have done is waste your time and money.

 

stay of the phone to bcw.

 

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/86-debt-collectors/573-general-debt-letter-if-you-know-nothing-of-the-debt

send them this make them prove the debt and that they have the right to collect.

send recorded do not sign (print your name)

 

If they can prove the debt and YOU are satisfied,and YOU want to clear it,

YOU pay on your terms,what YOU can afford.

 

from now on only deal with them in writting.

see what they come back with.

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