On line search to check if a Bailiff is Certificated.....

[hallowitch]

First time of posting so please bear with me. Recently had a gentlemen knock on door and he signed himself as Senior Bailiff in Charge Enforcement. Looked on the HM website and cannot find him or the company he works for. I have spoken to the Company who say he is certified. Don't believe the Company and want proof that he is in a position to clamp my car for an unpaid PCN. Any help much appreciated.

 

Great website by the way.

 

the web site is not 100% up to date

you can also phone them

 

Ministry of Justice Public Register of Bailiffs on 020 3334 6355

 

whats the name of the company

[Battleship]

Its Rundles. It's a long story which I have just posted as a separate thread asking for some help on.

[letsmakeamark]

Nothing new.

[mrabody]

 

If your search reveals that the bailiff is working for a different company it is important to be aware that statutory regulations laid down by Parliament state that if there are "any changes" to the certificate then the bailiff must “without delay” give notice to the Court and a new certificate will be issued to him reflecting the changes. This is vitally important because in almost all cases, the bailiff’s bond will be cancelled when he leaves his previous employer!!

 

 

Which statutory regulations stipulate that the bailiff must give notice to the court of any changes in his circumstances?

[tomtubby]

Which statutory regulations stipulate that the bailiff must give notice to the court of any changes in his circumstances?

 

 

 

The authority is contained in the Distress for Rent (Amendemnt) Rules 1999 where in Clause 12 it states the following:

 

12. After rule 7 there shall be inserted:

 

 

• " Change of bailiff's name, address, etc
  

• 
  (1) In this rule "relevant details" means a bailiff's name, address or other written information appearing on the certificate.
   
  (2) If there is any change in the relevant details, the bailiff shall without delay give written notice of the change to the issuing county court and produce his certificate ("the old certificate") to the court officer of the issuing county court.
   
  (3) When a bailiff gives notice and produces the old certificate in accordance with paragraph (2) above, the Judge of the issuing county court shall issue to the bailiff a replacement certificate reflecting the change in the relevant details but in all other respects (including, without limitation, the date of expiry of the certificate) the same as the old certificate.
   
  (4) When a replacement certificate is issued in accordance with paragraph (3) above, the court officer shall retain and cancel the old certificate.
   
  (5) No fee shall be payable for the issue of a replacement certificate in accordance with this rule.".
  

[mrabody]

thanks i have tried ringing it 3 times today it just goes to answer phone

 

On my first call I got the answer phone but I left a message and they called me back within 20 minutes. They seem to be very efficient.

[jqinfo]

Eventually got a call back, but still have to ring the court because they haven't the whole info, ie, not both this year and last, and it appears it is from the company Rundle, not the court!

 

JQ

[symphony63]

Very interesting

 

I just got a letter through the door from JBW for an unpaid PCN. I checked the Bailiff name on the register ....and you guessed right he's not there. So I decided to check JBW. I tried "JBW Enforcement Ltd" nothing came up. I then decide to check in companies house the legal name. I had the company number on the letter. The name in companies house came up as "J.B.W. GROUP LIMITED" again not on the register.

 

What can you guys help me with that?

 

PS phoned the OFT and it appears JBW don't have a Consumer Credit License.

Edited August 26, 2009 by symphony63

[sparky321]

quick question out of curiosity, if a bailiff posts a letter through door how do you check his name if there is just a scribble mark in the signiature line that is unreadable lol, iv had one of those, the accompioning letter says....signed........certified bailiff .......no name wotsoever. x thanx

[angryandy]

Phone the bailiff company up and ask them to tell you.

[Guest Thebailiff]

if its a letter then it makes no difference really. only need to be certificated to sign a levy. If it IS a levy, then the name has to be written in legible capital letters. if its not, tell the company its not a legal levy and they are welcome to pursue it but it will land them n court and the bailiff concerned without a certificate.

 

Any one can drop a letter through your door. it might be from a bailiff company but it might not need to be signed by a bailiff

[sparky321]

cool thanx guys x not sure what a levvy is lol but it was on grey official paper lol. it said notice of distress on top and had a bit at bottom unfilled about a walking posession agreement thing, wotever that means. anyway they wrote my car details down under the goods siezed bit, but my car is on HP lol. no Bailiff signiture tho just a scribbled line lol. i got it sorted though seems the council had me down as not paying my council tax even though i always pay it on time, right royal council cock up lol, cheers this site is fab xxx

[Guest Thebailiff]

yeah that is the levy alright. it is not really valid as sig is just scribbled on. I suggest ytou ring the bailiff company just to make sure they have got the message about not chasing you. they will keep coming unless the council call them off.

 

IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD MAKE SURE THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED OFF AND NOT TAKE THE COUNCILS WORD FOR IT. THEY MAY STILL TAKE YOUR CAR IF THEY THINK THEY CAN.

 

Regards

[tomtubby]

yeah that is the levy alright. it is not really valid as sig is just scribbled on. I suggest ytou ring the bailiff company just to make sure they have got the message about not chasing you. they will keep coming unless the council call them off.

 

IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD MAKE SURE THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED OFF AND NOT TAKE THE COUNCILS WORD FOR IT. THEY MAY STILL TAKE YOUR CAR IF THEY THINK THEY CAN.

 

Regards

 

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I would also be asking for confirmation that ALL charges associated with the levy on your car have been REMOVED !!

[sparky321]

cor you are right guys i never thought of that thanks for advice il ring them now to be sure cheers xxxxxxxxxxx

[sparky321]

they said it was cancelled by the council so seems ok, refused to put in writing though said it wasnt necessary, typical xx going through similar problem with them over overpayment of housing benefit too even though i cancelled benefit when i started working and have it in writing from rent department, bailiff is chasing me for 800 quid, refused my offer to pay them 20.00 month even though im not working and we are on low income from husbands wages and 4 kids to feed. poxy newlyn bailiffs are the pitts. xxxxx

[Guest Thebailiff]

i suggest you have a look at filling a form in like this one (Free Income and Expenditure Form) and see what you are left with. (the national average after food, clothing and everything else is about £150 per person to live on per month. If you have less than this then you can can alot of help with housing and council tax.

I have just been through it with a friend and rent has gone from £86 per week to £18 per week and c/tax down to £8 per month.

 

If you fill it in and find you are below national average, then send it in along with offer of payment stating that if it is not accepted then you would be happy to go to court as you have limited/no liquid funds and the courts will order you pay less than you are offering. it doesa not work for everyone. If you have far more left than you need to live on, then maybe look at increasing the offer slightly. up to you.

 

Its only an idea. hope it works out for you.

 

regards

[sillygirl09]

I've just rang the number now and they took a message, within 5 mins the guy had rang me back, the bailiff I was enquiring about has been certificated in the Birkenhead Courts back in April this year, when I asked why he wasn't showing up on the website his response was that the Courts send the information to them, therefore I now have to ring the Court to find out if he has been given the certificate!

 

Good luck.

[letsmakeamark]

The problem is that the courts are still using windows 98 and also are still using floppies to move their data around with them.

[Diggydog]

Just to add, I have checked out a further two bailiffs who were not showing on the website but the MOJ has now confirmed that they are certified, so again you must not rely on the website alone.

[ironicbliss]

Hi could someone be kind enough to confirm that if a person is not listed on the list of certified bailiffs @ hmrc then they definatley are not certified?

Thanks

[hallowitch]

Hi could someone be kind enough to confirm that if a person is not listed on the list of certified bailiffs @ hmrc then they definatley are not certified?

Thanks

 

the list is not 100%

phone the Ministry of Justice Public Register of Bailiffs on 020 3334 6355 to confirm

 

the bailiff must be certificated to the company he is collecting for or self-employed (certificated but not to any company)

[ironicbliss]

the list is not 100%

phone the Ministry of Justice Public Register of Bailiffs on 020 3334 6355 to confirm

 

the bailiff must be certificated to the company he is collecting for or self-employed (certificated but not to any company)

Thankyou Hallowitch your help is appreciated.

[hallowitch]

bear in mind that it depends on what kind of debt they are collect whether they have to be certificated or not

[spirit654]

Hi all

First post so bear with me i have a bailiff on at me done a search and the only one with his surname is from another court up north and with a different company. Im sure he will come back very arrogant man shall i ask him ? Havn't let him in and dont intend to.

Sorry forgot it about council tax arrears so much info on this site trying to take it all in