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Hi guys,


Thanks for taking the time to read this post -


Last wednesday evening i was stopped by Northamptonshire Police for speeding, i was given a fixed penalty notice with a producer at my local police station in manchester for my license & insurance.


The van i was driving is a friends who is the MD of his own company, on sat eve after work i went to my local police station and surrendered my license & produced a copy of my friends insurance for the van.


The insurance was declined by the police as it was a "photocopy", they also asked for a hand written letter of permission to drive the van on company letter headed paper from my friend,


To try & cut a long story short today is the last day to produce the insurance certificate, it has not arrived in the post 2day even though it was posted out 1st thing Monday:(, i do have the hand written letter of permission to use the van in my hand.


Can anyone advise please what i can do ??


Sods law the insurance certificate will arrive tomorrow - if it does can i still produce it at the police station???


Thanks for your help guys

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I think I would still produce what you have so far within the timescale and tell them you are still awaiting an original copy of the insurance. As the arrival of this document is outwith your control, at least you will have demonstrated your intentions to meet the 7 day request. Not sure what the legalities of this would be but I would have thought it would be up to the desk officer to accept your reasons or not and perhaps give you further days to do so.


I think not turning up with anything wouldn't be a good idea though.

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Thanks crem, much appreciated i dealt with a civilian desk clerk who was very bolshi last week - she wouldn't take any notice at all of the photocopied document!!


I'll go this evening after work & show them what i have - any other suggestions would be very helpful

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Go back with the photocopy as it has details of the insurance. If they wish to they can contact the insurers who will confirm if it is genuine.


Desk jocky is a wannabe police person who wouldn't make the grade for flipping burgers at McDonalds if they were twinned with Steven Hawkin!

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:) - I said that to her -re the insurance cert & she wouldn't have it - The onus is on me to provide the documents" etc etc :mad:

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if she is still on tonight, demand to speak to the real desk sargeant

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These things usually come back to the officer who issued original ticket for process if there are any offences.


There is the offence of failing to produce as opposed to not having insurance. Its worth getting the desk person to take a copy of the photocopy and the letter or permission and forward that to the officer concerned then he or she can call the insurance company and make further enquiries as to the whether or not insurance was in place and for who etc etc.


If the desk person refuses ask to speak to a supervisor and explain (nicely) the situation and that you're doing your very best to comply.

They have nothing to lose, and you could even write 'photocopy' over the top of the copy to make it clear that you are not trying to deceive anyone.


The certificate is only there to prove you have insurance in place. However, as we know with monthly payments etc, it proves little if nothing these days which is why we have real time access to the motor insurance data base.

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