Car taken

[Mudge]

Hi

 

A couple of heavies turned up at my bussiness address where I owe rent.

The landlord wouldnt except installments and the bailiffs have taken my car. I have not been taken to court by the landlord.

 

Couple of questions.

 

They have left me very little paperword.

The first bit of paper is a removal expenses form. The only things entered are my car details, and the bailiffs name and mobile. No other contact details or costs have been entered.

 

The second bit was a distress warrant, my details were entered as well as the landlors but none of the bailiffs.

 

I told them I need my car for work but I was told under the rent act they can take whatever they like as this is a business address. The car goes up for auction tomorrow. Can I stop the car being sold as I need this to earn money.

[PGH7447]

Have you been to court over this? I believe only a court can instruct bailiffs, if not call the police and say the car has been stolen, also did you see any identification from the people

[Mudge]

I belive because it is a commercial premises that the baliff does not have to have a court order.

 

Whats worrys me is that I have nothing with there name and address and I have no breakdown of costs for taking the car. They have not put any of there details on the removal expenses form, just my car details.

[lets fight bailiffs]

i would call the police asap and report the car as stolen given the fact that you have had no court papers as this would be classed as (taken without owners consent)this is only my opinion but call the police now and get a crime number because if the car is damaged and there is no crime number they will fight it .

 

good luck

[hallowitch]

I belive because it is a commercial premises that the bailiff does not have to have a court order

 

he has to have a court order regardless of what premises is is

[lets fight bailiffs]

Hallowitch is right and it would be a county court order for rent and you would know about it because the court would have written to you as well.

[Mudge]

Had a google, lots of companys offering commercial rent collection, all saying no court needed.

 

Trouble is the car goes up for auction tomorrow. Dont think it will get much cos I wouldnt give them the log book. Don't know if to try and buy the car back or stop the auction. I cant earn money without a car.

[Mudge]

Do I ring the auction people, and if i do will I get my car back, or will it be stuck in limbo.

[pompeyfaith]

Did u see any ID if not PHONE POLICE NOW

[Mudge]

I spoke to the landlord and he confirmed he sent them round.

[lets fight bailiffs]

Did you not have any notice what so ever with any intensions from the landlord prior to them attending because debt collectors can appear without a court order but can't take goods and even debt collecters have to show ID and leave full contact details.

[ambershadow]

Is the car on hp by any chance?

[PGH7447]

call the police

[lets fight bailiffs]

I must agree police are the first phonecall i would make and its not just me who is saying it and if your landlord has told you he sent them report him at the same time but i would do this NOW

[pompeyfaith]

Whether he sent them or not is not the point, the point is if they had no id how do you know they are baliffs.

 

Im also not sure they can auction the car the following day

[lets fight bailiffs]

Hi

 

A couple of heavies turned up at my bussiness address where I owe rent.

The landlord wouldnt except installments and the bailiffs have taken my car. I have not been taken to court by the landlord.

 

Couple of questions.

 

They have left me very little paperword.

The first bit of paper is a removal expenses form. The only things entered are my car details, and the bailiffs name and mobile. No other contact details or costs have been entered.

 

The second bit was a distress warrant, my details were entered as well as the landlors but none of the bailiffs.

 

I told them I need my car for work but I was told under the rent act they can take whatever they like as this is a business address. The car goes up for auction tomorrow. Can I stop the car being sold as I need this to earn money.

 

you say they had a warrant but not without a court order

[Mudge]

They had nothing from a court. The landlord had instructed them. They said because it was commercial no need for court.

If I inform the police will it help me get my car back asap?

 

I could go and buy the car tomorrow, it only likely to fetch a few hundred and im losing money not having a car.

 

Will the auction house give it back to me if I show the log book ect? The last thing I want is it sitting there for a week while it gets sorted out.

[Mudge]

Sorry, there was no warrant, but a form he filled in said distress warrant.

[PGH7447]

call the police good grief, either there is more to this than you are telling us or you have a phobia about the law

[lets fight bailiffs]

sorry but i have just read the full thing again and i still say going to the police is a must we had a high court case this year and the writ came from the supream high court and that was for commerciel debt but they did not walk away with anything over my dead body they would

[lets fight bailiffs]

call the police good grief, either there is more to this than you are telling us or you have a phobia about the law

 

 

Very blunt but to the point most peaple on hear have been on hear for a long time giving advice i however have had 7 court cases in the last year and as yet lost none police must be the next step.

[Mudge]

Im giving the whole story and from what im reading the car was taken illegally or like an idiot I gave it away.

 

But what do I say to the police, "I gave the keys away"?

Plus will the auction house give me my car back?

 

My plan at the moment is to go and try and buy it for a few hundred, if it goes for more than that give a typed letter to them saying the car is mine and they have no right to sell it and then report it stolen. Still not sure what to say to the police.

[pompeyfaith]

You mearly have to say you gave the keys away to keep the peace and not cause a bigger disturbance.

 

But on second thoughts I have doubts as to whether they are who they said they are.

[ambershadow]

And without a warrant they can't sell the car straight away anyway, they have to give you reasonable time to pay

[k1mmie]

They told me they had a warrant and never gave it to me. DId not give me anything when they clamped my car. Did not give me a levy even when they took my car! Told me I have 7 days to pay. Annoying thing was I had sold it on ebay the week before, but they said that as it was probably still registered in my name it didnt make any difference. They are digging themselves a deeper hole!