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Parking Clamp - Whites Company - Help Please :)

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Im writting this thread on behalf of my friend...


Today she popped into town on her lunch break, and when she returned to her car - it was clamped. This is a parking spot she parks at quite frequently, and until today she has never noticed the signs.


So her car is clamped and she has to ring up 'whites company' and they come out and charge her £150 to release the clamp.

she gets a receipt.


I know the deal with private parking tickets companies - but where do you stand with private companys clamping? is there any hope she can claim her money back?


can you remove a clamp? and not pay?


If any one has been in a similar situation and has any advice on what she can do - it will be so helpful!


Thank you :)

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Sadly I think more PPCs will clamp now because victims are realising the tickets are worthless.


First thing you should do is go back to the site and take lots of photos of the signs and the area itself. Your friend will need to prove that they are not obvious and therefore they never entered into a contract.


Look at the sticky posts on here, they will be able to tell you all the info about the procedure... it will most likely involve the small claims court

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SIA registered ? name and number of paperwork ? get photo graphs now, the signs in close up and general shots of the area showing sign locations and (in)visibility.

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also check the receipt it must have the following information:


the location where the vehicle was clamped or towed. (must be a location, not just a location code!)

their own name and signature

their licence number.

the date.

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The location written down on the reciept is actually not where the car was - he wrote the wrong town - does this help in any way?

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yes this would probably make the clamping illegal, I sugest finding out who the landowner is, and jointly write a letter before action to the clampers and the landowner. Make sure you report the clamper to the sia (http://www.the-sia.org.uk) for breach of licence.


As a back up i would ensure you preapre a secondary defence on the basis of signage, as long as you can show that you did not consent to your car being clamped (by possibly reading a sign) then they did not have permision to fit the clamp on the car.


Before you send anything I would recomend getting all corrispondance checked and then checked again on here and probably on www.pepipoo.com to ensure you have the strongest chance of getting the money back.

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Ok - we'll get working on the letter and getting the photos together, then ill post it back here to get feedback! thanks for the advice so far..! :) x

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Have you had a read of the clamping guide in the stickies. It explains the legal situation and gives you some things to check out.


This does not constitute legal advice and is not represented as a substitute for legal advice from an appropriately qualified person or firm.



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