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Recieved £50 fine for exceeding 3 hour time limit - 10:30PM - 2:01AM Didn't see any notices as it was dark.


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Hello there

 

I have just recieved a Parking charge notice for £50 (£25 if paid within 14 days)

 

last Friday night we visited a cinema complex, the cine complex car park was full so we parked next door in a retail outlet car park, you know the type with a pizza hut, Homebase, Toys R us etc..

 

A few days later I recieved a letter, with photos of my vehicle (with number plate visible) entering and leaving the car park.

 

I can understand them having a 3 hour time limit, during the daytime when the shops are open for trading but from 10:30PM - 2:01AM seems ridiculous and is purely a money making scheme.

 

I didn't see any notices stating this time limit, it was obviously dark at the time we arrived and have not had the chance to drive back in the daytime to take a look.

 

Am I likely to have any joy trying to fight this? Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the outcome.

 

I am very annoyed about this, but at the same, if I don't have a leg to stand on I would rather pay the reduced fee within 14 days.

 

Any advice very much appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Paul

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It is a PPC invoice NOT a parking ticket. Read this forum and you will see thousands of similar cases.

 

This is sound advise. COMPLETELY IGNORE. Do not phone, do not write.

 

They will send you another few letters including ones that are very intimidating, from debt collectors (them again) and solicitors (Yes, them yet again).

 

Do not be tempted in any way to contact them at all. They will give up and go away.

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Hi there

 

Thanks for the replies, but can anyone give me some cold hard facts as to why your so confident that if I ignore, I'm not going to end up with a court summons / CCJ. - or point me to a similar thread please.

 

The company name is G24 LTD.

 

I did go back yesterday, in the daylight and there are signs that read:

 

3 hours free parking.

We have applied the 3 hour rule to allow everyone to gain access to the shops. If you exceed this there is a £50 parking charge.

 

Another thing, they state they contacted the DVLA for my address via registration plate, is this legal ??

 

If I simply ring the DVLA and tell them someone parked illegally at my premises would they give me their private address and name ?? I can't believe that the DVLA would pass on this information so how did they obtain my name and address ??

 

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Hi there

 

Thanks for the replies, but can anyone give me some cold hard facts as to why your so confident that if I ignore, I'm not going to end up with a court summons / CCJ. - or point me to a similar thread please.

CLick on any one of the many 100s of threads here and you will find a similar one immediately

 

The company name is G24 LTD.

Again, search for G24 and you will find many entries

 

I did go back yesterday, in the daylight and there are signs that read:

 

3 hours free parking.

We have applied the 3 hour rule to allow everyone to gain access to the shops. If you exceed this there is a £50 parking charge.

Well I believe your parking DID allow everyone access to the shops so what do they think they are charging you for?

 

Another thing, they state they contacted the DVLA for my address via registration plate, is this legal ??

Unfortunately, yes it is because the government decided they could releave themselves of any responsiblility for our data protection

 

If I simply ring the DVLA and tell them someone parked illegally at my premises would they give me their private address and name ??

Yes you can, sortof. Thereis an official form to submit, but providing you can convince the DVLA you have "reasonable cause" to need teh info, then they will give you it

I can't believe that the DVLA would pass on this information so how did they obtain my name and address ??

Well now you can believe it I'm afraid, coz that's what they do

 

Many thanks

 

Paul

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How much do they charge per hour to park? Nothing?

 

So, IF and it is a very HUGE if they ever did take you to court (about a 0.00000000000001% chance of that), they would have to sue you for their losses. They lost precisely nothing so they could in theory sue you for zero plus costs.

 

They won't.

 

DO NOT be tempted to phone or write to them. It is a [problem]. Treat them like a bad fart. Ignore it long enough and it will go away.

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I did as advised, but have now recieved a letter from CCS Collect, debt collectors.

 

The letter states:

 

'This is a formal notice of intended court action. We may take action if you fail to pay the full amount you owe within 7 days of the date of this letter'

 

So now what ?

 

Thanks

 

Paul

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I did as advised, but have now recieved a letter from CCS Collect, debt collectors.

 

The letter states:

 

'This is a formal notice of intended court action. We may take action if you fail to pay the full amount you owe within 7 days of the date of this letter'

 

So now what ?

 

Thanks

 

Paul

 

Ah yes, I had one of those 12 months back. I think the one you have is the final reminder. They also do a final, final reminder and a final, final , final reminder. Some have fancy colours on to make them look important.

I’m not sure why but they send them in separate envelopes at different times. Such a waste of paper.

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I received a letter from ccs collect last week acting for g24 stating the same as you received. I have a similar thread going myself about this. I have chosen to ignore the letter as advised and will wait and see what happens next. My seven days where up on 4th Aug.

 

Ok please keep me posted, maybe we can do our jail time together.

 

Paul

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Unfortunately not many people give feedback on the outcome of ignoring these [problematic] to help put victims minds at rest at a time when panic has set in! (I know cos I've been there) - probably because of the lengthy time-frame involved.

 

I got two 'invoices' in December 2007 (one from CEL for alleged overstay in a retail car park and one from APPOC for alleged non payment in a pay and display).

 

I chose to ignore both completely (following the sound advice from this forum) - receiving all the subsequent threatening letters over a period of five to six months or so, then all went quiet - lol

 

I've now been free of any further harassment for well over a year and still waiting for the court summons they both promised - lol :D

 

Bottom line is that they rely on a contractual obligation under civil law to 'claim' the value of the 'invoices' they issue. The onus being on them to prove that such a contract actually exists and that you (the accused) broke that contract (and can only claim for damages - they cannot impose fines) - something not easy for them to do in these circumstances.

 

So, my advise is to simply ignore all their threatening correspondence (whilst having a good laugh at the content - lol) and go about your life not worrying about it.

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