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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Blindly Paid Marstons HCEO on Ltd Company debt - now want my moneyback!!


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In Jan 2008 I received a letter from Marstons saying they were enforcing a High Court Writ for a debt owed.

 

The debt owed was in the region of £1300 and was against a company I was a director of.

The company never legally traded as the other director disappered with the stock.

The other director vanished and refused to pay anything, and to date has not been seen.

 

They demanded payment of £50 per month from me,

not having seen this site before now, which I paid for over 12months.

 

 

After numerous threatening letters etc I went to the Citizens Advice Beurea and they were really helpful.

I notified Marstons that the address they were sending letters was in fact my parents

and I had a signed letter to inform them it was not the company address nor did I have any assests. I

 

 

also informed them that as a director I was not liable for the payment of the fines directly and it was to be held against the company.

They accepted this and wrote back in January 2009 saying that in this case they would write back to the issuing solicitors confirming that was the case and that they would not issue any more letters etc to myself.

 

I have written to them on two occassions asking for them to return the monies paid to them (over £600) as the debt they enforced against me was wrong and that I should of not paid any of the money.

 

Is there any way I can expedite this situation as clearly they and the issuing solicitors have accepted I am personally not liable for the monies owed.

 

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I have all the 'threatening' you havent paid we are coming to collect letters plus ones saying they are investigating my account and then another saying that they have reviewed my case and they arent pursuing it anymore.

 

One other thing all this was put through Northampton CC without myself or the other (missing) director so we were not able to defend or comment on the case.

 

Can I request information from the court regarding the case. I normally wouldnt bother with chasing for £600+ but as you can see from my other threads I am struggling financially (as a result of the company setup) and am trying to remedy the situation the best I can

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Contact the solicitors and ask they refund you the money they owe and add 8% interest from the date they have held the funds. Its 0.00022% per day on the debt amount. If the solicitor is uncoopereative then report the Firm to the Solicitors Regulation Authority.

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Marstons are not solicitors, they are bailiffs and the firm does not need to be regulated.

Anybody can set up a Ltd company and trade as a bailiff.

To collect unpaid council tax & parking tickets the person making contact with the debtor and handling public money must be certificated with the Ministry of Justice.

 

If you are complaing about a bailiff then phone the Ministry of Justice Public Register of Bailiffs on 020 3334 6355 and ask which court issued his certificate.

 

If Marstons are impersonating a solicitor or working without a valid Practice Certificate then you need to contact the Solicitors Regulation Authority because they commit an offence under Section 1 of the Solicitors Act 1974.

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You mention that you were a Director of the company. Was the Company Limited?

If the company was Ltd then unless you have signed a personal guarantee then you are not liable for the company debt.

 

However if you were acting as a sole trader or partnership then you are liable for the debt. In the case of a partnership then you actually have a joint and several liability to the debt with your partner - ie you are both responsible for the debt in it's entirity - not just a portion of it.

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Have a look on the HMCS website and download form EX345 - about bailiffs and enforcement officers. This provides the details of who to complain to with regard to HCEO's.

 

Write to Marsdens and give them 7 days to return your money - if not you will put them into small claims. If they dont pay you once you have a judgement then you can send in the bailiff!!!

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To set a thief to catch a thief.

 

Instructing Martons to recover a debt from themselves is a new one for me. In a case like this, I would probably go for a charging order, it attracts 8% interest.

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No the claim was against the company and didnt not refer to me. It only started having my name against the post sent to the address when the other director went missing.

 

I sent a letter to Marstons on 18 June 2009 asking for information on the issuing solicitor, a breakdown of the costs and charges against the account and a copy of the last correspondance saying the matter had been closed. To date, 5 July 2009, I have had no correspondance and they fail to return any of my telephone calls.

 

Any ideas on how to proceed?

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Write to them.

 

The Omnipotent Bailiff Co, Plc

Their Address 1

Their Address 2

Their Address 3

Postcode

 

BY POST AND BY EMAIL

 

DATE

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Re: [YOUR NAME + REF]: Your fees.

 

I write following visits by your bailiff however there appears to an irregularity with your fees and I am writing to ask you to provide me the following within seven (7) days:

 

1) The name of the court that issued the certificate for the bailiff in charge

 

2) Written confirmation of a) your fees, and b) the original debt

 

3) The name and address of the organisation that instructed you

 

4) a) Truthfully confirm in writing your fees are lawful and comply with legislation or b) refund me the unlawful fees plus reasonable compensation for being cheated by your certificated bailiff with his fees by midday the seventh day from the date of this letter.

 

A bailiff or any other person who dishonestly charges for work that has not been done will be committing an offence under the Fraud Act 2006. Section 2 of the Act specifically describes a person dishonestly makes a false representation and intends, by making the representation, to make a gain for himself or another, or cause a loss to another, or expose another to a risk of loss therefore, if no satisfactory refund is made to me by 12.00 midday seven (7) days from the date of this letter I will automatically file a complaint to police under the 2006 Fraud Act and the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002. If you have charged VAT on unlawful fees then you may be reported for VAT fraud and your documents will be given in evidence. If your bailiff is certificated, a Form 4 will be filed.

 

This letter is delivered by Royal Mail and deem it good service upon you by the ordinary course of post under Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978. It now is your responsibility and in your best interests this letter is handed to the relevant person within your organisation.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

YOUR NAME

 

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As an update I now have all the solicitors details who issued the writ to Marstons. Marstons wrote back giving me all the details plus a breakdown of costs Ive paid (£735) and saying that they only enforce what they are told and they have not broken any laws (which is probably true) but added at the bottom 'We hope you are successful in obtaining a refund' :mad:

 

Would anyone have an idea of what to write in a letter to the solictors asking for all the money back?

 

Thanks

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