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    • Thank you for the reply - I'm half expecting them to either drop the whole thing or to spring the "We had to tell the court that you don't want to pay so we're going to restart proceedings" idea given the language in the consent order that I signed with them. Going to read up and prepare to defend in case they fancy playing that game. It'd be nice if they would actually play by the rules for once...
    • Hi, I'm not sure if I'm asking this in the correct forum.   Ill try to be brief   - last October I contacted a h2b company that said I was eligible for up to £200 off every window and door. I agreed to a company to come and quote.   The quote was given, the windows and doors installed. The initial installation was incomplete however the people installing said for them to be paid for their part I needed to sign both a form that said what was left and that they had done their part. This form was actually an agreement to release the funds from the finance company. I disputed this.   Fensa came to inspect my property finding multiple errors (improper sealing) in addition to those I found (chipped and damaged beading, poor finish and damage to an internal door and blind). The company returned to fix the issues Fensa identified.    I compiled a very hefty report and sent to the window company complaints team with pictures showing the faults. They did apologise and have attempted to remedy some of the issue.   I asked for a price breakdown in December to check exactly what each item cost. This was done as I had agreed to have sills in addition to the windows and i received capping boards instead (i didnt need capping boards).   The price breakdown shows no indication of any saving made as promised by the h2b company. When i highlighted this to the window company they said what they had provided was all they were giving me. I complained again and was given an explanation stating that they gave me a different saving that was larger than would have been offered by the h2b company in the first place. This was not indicated to me at point of sale.   Being that it has been a year I am wondering if I should contact the financial ombudsman about this. I feel as though I have been miss old this product and the company has been dishonest and unhelpful.   Any advice would be great.
    • Hi everyone,    They started sending threats:   Wednesday:    We have been instructed to proceed formally on this claim in 7 days in respect of the balance due to Photo Studio Group unless discharged or an arrangement made. This will result in a formal Letter Before Claim and Court Proceedings.    Thursday :    It's not too late to stop legal action. Settle the £1182.89 due to Photo Studio Group.    Friday 8:23am :   The £1182.89 due to Photo Studio Group is overdue we are now instructed to proceed with a formal Letter Before Claim.    Friday 6:28pm:   We are now considering whether to issue Court proceedings to recover £1182.89 owed to Photo Studio Group.        
    • Hi Guys, I would appreciate any advice you can give.   In mid September this year we went to a Caravan company to look at potential caravan purchases, we found one caravan that we liked it was a 2018 model,   however when talking to the salesman we expressed concern that the settee and the bed mattress seemed to be of very poor quality and lacked any real support. The settee and mattress also seemed older than the year of manufacture would suggest. The salesman assured us that the fittings were manufacture fitted and that was, 'Just how they are'. He agreed to look into the matter for us.   As a result we paid a £1,000 deposit on our debit card, the salesman asked us to sign a contract for sale regarding the caravan informing us it was 'a receipt for the money we paid'.   We were due to collect the caravan this week, however, during the period from signing the contract we felt that we were being mislead about the furnishings previously mentioned so we carried out some research.   I sent the photographs to the manufacturer and asked them if they were the original fittings supplied by them, they responded that the settee and mattresses shown in the photographs (Taken from the online sales pictures from the sellers website) were never fitted to that caravan and had never been supplied by the manufacturer. I also downloaded the brochure from the manufacturer that showed the settee and bed mattresses that were fitted to the year and model of the caravan we had paid a deposit on, were nothing like the ones currently fitted.   somebody has taken out the superior Settee and bed mattresses and replaced them with cheaper inferior quality ones which seriously devalued the caravan, notwithstanding reducing the comfort and quality of the caravan. He insisted that the photographs (taken from their website) were the correct fittings for that caravan.   On Sunday 20th October, I sent the caravan sales company a letter stating that we were rejecting the caravan and that we had been mislead as to the quality and provenance of the fittings, that we no longer had any trust in the sales company and under the Consumer Rights Act requesting the return of our deposit.   We received a response the next day that stated, they accept the cancelling of the contract however, they are retaining our deposit against the purchase of another caravan from them.   I think it is a given, that we would never darken their doorstep again let alone purchase anything from them. I would add that all our concerns and the company's responses have been via email, so we have an audit trail of what has gone on.   I have considered chargeback, as we paid on a Visa debit card (I know should have used a credit card) and I am aware that we have 120 days to try and implement this.   I'm looking for advice as to what to write to the company to start with, i.e. Letter of complaint (They have no complaints policy or procedure in their T&C, they are also not signed up to the Dispute Resolution Ombudsman Scheme) or a, Letter before Claim, or do I involve Trading Standards.   Any advice from the wise members of this group would be greatly appreciated.   
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      I wrote to all his creditors asking for supporting documents and not one could provide any material that would allow them to enforce the debt.
       
      As a result he stopped paying and they have been unable to do anything, one even admitted it was unenforceable.
       
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You're in the right place now WN and all the advice you've received so far is sopt on. You really do need to SAR the original creditor to look at a charges reclaim. If you need a letter give us a shout :)

Could you point me in the direction of the SAR letter please.

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Hello again.

I've finally recieved the Credit Agreement. I apologise because my information was off before. The loan was through Capital Bank which is a Bank of Scotland company, and not through the Royal Bank of Scotland which I originally thought. Also it says it was for £4000 and not the £3000 I thought it was. Anyway, attached is a copy of what they've sent me.

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You forgot to attach it. ;)

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Once again I've recieved a letter from Blair Oliver and Scott asking me to call them because my repayment is up for review. I'm to have details of my income and expenditure at hand for their Collection Specialists to assist me.

 

Any thoughts on what I should do? :???:

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Only a court is entitled to that information, report them to TS and the OFT and copy them in on the letter :D

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TS = Trading Standards

OFT = Office of Fair Trading

 

Consumer direct can help you make a complaint to your ow TS, their TS and the OFT:

 

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You can write a short letter to BO&S advising that you have contacted TS and the OFT for asking for information they're not entitled too and that your circumstances haven't changed (if that's the case) and you will not be making increased payments or you may have to decrease them if your income and expenditure dictate this!

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Hi

You say they are asking you to phone and have your income and expenditure ready so they can come to an agreement. Don’t ring and tell them nothing!

 

You say you are only in receipt of benefits for you and your children. There is no way you should be paying £20.20 per month from benefits.

 

When you received your award letter from the DWP it says in the first paragraph what you are entitled to and then goes on to say this is what the government thinks you need to live on. Benefits are for you and your children to be able to live and £20.20 must make a big dent in your resources.

 

Don’t send them an income and expenditure letter send them a letter stating that your only income is benefits and you are only able to offer a token payment of £1 per month as a gesture of goodwill until your finances improve. If they did issue court proceedings and unless you’re sitting on a fortune in assets I doubt they would, a £1 is all a court would award.

 

BOS do like to try and bully you don’t let them if you have not got it you cant pay it. This is the letter I sent

Since making that above agreement with you, my circumstances have changed.

We cannot now afford to agreed monthly payments because ... [your paragraph added here]

In view of our circumstances, would you please a goodwill payment of £1 per month to be reviewed in six months. If

interest or other charges are being added to the account, we would be grateful if you would freeze these so our

debt does not increase.

Should my circumstances improve we will contact you again.

Thank you for your assistance. We look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible.

Yours faithfully

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