Unenforceability Cases on hold until further notice

[Demonbarb]

and who are the ones with no fees upfront or on the back end pray tell if you would be so kind- some nervous folk on here might apporeciate such a free service

A business I am a partner in, but I am not a member of these forums to promote it but to see what develops in the industry and I find these forums useful and interesting and I aren't sure if I would be breaking forum rules by mentioning it so I won't.

 

I aren't sure if the forum has an email feature but if it does and you want to know more then email me. It does annoy me, however, on here when some holier than thou type comments are aimed at CMC's in general when there are some decent outfits out there.

 

The industry is very messy and we all know who the real rogues are and the industry needs a much firmer hand from MOJ than it gets and personally I can't wait until they get to grips with it but I won't be holding my breath.

[pt2537]

A business I am a partner in, but I am not a member of these forums to promote it but to see what develops in the industry and I find these forums useful and interesting and I aren't sure if I would be breaking forum rules by mentioning it so I won't.IT IS A CLEAR BREACH OF SITE RULES SO BEST NOT TO EH?

 

I aren't sure if the forum has an email feature but if it does and you want to know more then email me. It does annoy me, however, on here when some holier than thou type comments are aimed at CMC's in general when there are some decent outfits out there.

 

AGAIN, TO TAKE PART IN SUCH AN ACTIVITY WOULD BREACH THE SITE RULES IM AFRAID AND WOULD RESULT IN PM FUNCTIONS BEING REMOVED

 

The industry is very messy and we all know who the real rogues are and the industry needs a much firmer hand from MOJ than it gets and personally I can't wait until they get to grips with it but I won't be holding my breath.

[Wigeon]

Sorry to be picky Southern Pacific ML v Walker Chester county Court

[pt2537]

Sorry to be picky Southern Pacific ML v Walker Chester county Court

actually

 

according to the order i have in front of me,

 

Its Southern Pacific Personal Loans Ltd and MJ Walker and one other

 

if you really wish to be picky of course

[Tricky Dickie]

A business I am a partner in, but I am not a member of these forums to promote it but to see what develops in the industry and I find these forums useful and interesting and I aren't sure if I would be breaking forum rules by mentioning it so I won't.

 

I aren't sure if the forum has an email feature but if it does and you want to know more then email me. It does annoy me, however, on here when some holier than thou type comments are aimed at CMC's in general when there are some decent outfits out there.

 

The industry is very messy and we all know who the real rogues are and the industry needs a much firmer hand from MOJ than it gets and personally I can't wait until they get to grips with it but I won't be holding my breath.

 

No arguments from me on any of the points you make,however this thread previously got diverted doen this line of discussion so a new thread was started from the posts on the subject.I think this is it,I''ll see you there,nice to have someone who thinks the same

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/198695-validity-claims-management-companies-new-post.html

[Demonbarb]

Just as well I behave myself then eh?

[diddydicky]

well reading the info on the company above it seems to me thata they ONLY take on cases where PPi is missold or fees/interest have been incorrect

 

nothing to say that they will take cases where prescribed terms are missing

[diddydicky]

i must admit the use of the term

 

"I aren't"'t

 

Doesn't fill me with confidence as to the ability of the company you work with to represent me in court!

[Tricky Dickie]

I have now received a letter from Chester County Court informing me that I need to attend a case management conference at the court on Tuesday 19th May.

WTF is that all about at such short notice?

 

I have just spoken to the court and apparently the case management conference I have been asked to attend will be dealing with a total of 44 cases.

Should be interesting,anyone want to come along as my legal advisor to earwig and possibly give me advice?

[car2403]

I have just spoken to the court and apparently the case management conference I have been asked to attend will be dealing with a total of 44 cases.

Should be interesting,anyone want to come along as my legal advisor to earwig and possibly give me advice?

 

We've seen the Courts manage these large numbers of cases in the same way before - you can imagine the pressure put on the Court system when the cases about Bank charges started off.

 

Usually, if they are all been heard together, which is suggested here, the outcome is probably already determined and will be applied to all the cases at the same time. I've been in a Court room with 9 other claimants before, which is bad enough, but I would imagine that 44 would be quite a spectacle to behold.

 

Access to justice refused due to the volume of cases heard, some would say. Reducing the impact on the Courts of having vast numbers of cases issued on the same grounds, is a possibility.

 

I'd recommend you starting a new thread, TD, so we can track your progress along the way. (There's a guide to CAG in my signature if you aren't sure how)

[Tricky Dickie]

We've seen the Courts manage these large numbers of cases in the same way before - you can imagine the pressure put on the Court system when the cases about Bank charges started off.

 

Usually, if they are all been heard together, which is suggested here, the outcome is probably already determined and will be applied to all the cases at the same time. I've been in a Court room with 9 other claimants before, which is bad enough, but I would imagine that 44 would be quite a spectacle to behold.

 

Access to justice refused due to the volume of cases heard, some would say. Reducing the impact on the Courts of having vast numbers of cases issued on the same grounds, is a possibility.

 

I'd recommend you starting a new thread, TD, so we can track your progress along the way. (There's a guide to CAG in my signature if you aren't sure how)

 

From what I can gather it would seem that the purpose of the conference is to advise everyone involved in this matter about how the court has decided to proceed rather than discuss individual cases or listen to individual arguments.

My girlfriend is panicking about this now and insisting I am represented but I think that will be a waste of money I have not got .

Firstly whoever I could find at this short notice would know nothing about the case and it does not even sound like there will be any need for any input on my part,what do you think?

[foolishgirl]

Usually, if they are all been heard together, which is suggested here, the outcome is probably already determined and will be applied to all the cases at the same time.

 

From what I can gather it would seem that the purpose of the conference is to advise everyone involved in this matter about how the court has decided to proceed rather than discuss individual cases or listen to individual arguments.

My girlfriend is panicking about this now and insisting I am represented but I think that will be a waste of money I have not got .

Firstly whoever I could find at this short notice would know nothing about the case and it does not even sound like there will be any need for any input on my part,what do you think?

 

If the decision on how to proceed has already been made by the court on these cases, (which as car says, seems likely) IMO you'd be unlikely to gain anything by employing a pro. at this stage. You might like to see if a CAG buddy in your area is available though to listen in/advise - click the link at the top of the page.

 

Please do start a new thread TD & let us know how you go on, this could be vital information to all CAGers.

[Tricky Dickie]

If the decision on how to proceed has already been made by the court on these cases, (which as car says, seems likely) IMO you'd be unlikely to gain anything by employing a pro. at this stage. You might like to see if a CAG buddy in your area is available though to listen in/advise - click the link at the top of the page.

 

Please do start a new thread TD & let us know how you go on, this could be vital information to all CAGers.

 

I will but having looked at how the buddy system works it would make sense to find someone near to Chester rather than where I live which is South Manchester

Incidentally I do not understand why the case was transfered to Chester when I live in Manchester unless its got something to do with the MBNA connection.

When I submitted my AQ I asked for the case to be transferred to Altrincham

[foolishgirl]

Incidentally I do not understand why the case was transfered to Chester when I live in Manchester unless its got something to do with the MBNA connection.

When I submitted my AQ I asked for the case to be transferred to Altrincham

 

I don't understand that either particularly as you are an LIP against a big company but it does happen sometimes.

[Wigeon]

actually

 

according to the order i have in front of me,

 

Its Southern Pacific Personal Loans Ltd and MJ Walker and one other

 

if you really wish to be picky of course

 

Again not wishing to be pedantic. Southern Pacific Loans Limited does not exist. It is a trading name of Southern Pacific Mortgages Limited. Some of the papers in the case were issued in the T/A name and some in SPML's name. In fact the original summons the SPML name was used. The order is incorrect but the copy you have is the unsealed version (guessing that is)

[I've got no money]

Again not wishing to be pedantic. Southern Pacific Loans Limited does not exist. It is a trading name of Southern Pacific Mortgages Limited. Some of the papers in the case were issued in the T/A name and some in SPML's name. In fact the original summons the SPML name was used. The order is incorrect but the copy you have is the unsealed version (guessing that is)

 

The sealed copy of the Order of the 1st of April that I have says the Claimant is Southern Pacific Personal Loans Limited.

[I've got no money]

I don't understand that either particularly as you are an LIP against a big company but it does happen sometimes.

 

I struggle with the fact its' not been transferred - perhaps they'll explain at the CMC

 

I agree with FG that it won't serve any real purpose to instruct lawyers at this stage

[I've got no money]

We've seen the Courts manage these large numbers of cases in the same way before - you can imagine the pressure put on the Court system when the cases about Bank charges started off.

 

Usually, if they are all been heard together, which is suggested here, the outcome is probably already determined and will be applied to all the cases at the same time. I've been in a Court room with 9 other claimants before, which is bad enough, but I would imagine that 44 would be quite a spectacle to behold.

 

Access to justice refused due to the volume of cases heard, some would say. Reducing the impact on the Courts of having vast numbers of cases issued on the same grounds, is a possibility.

 

I'd recommend you starting a new thread, TD, so we can track your progress along the way. (There's a guide to CAG in my signature if you aren't sure how)

 

There is a thread already

[jonifred]

I googled them and couldnt find them, what is their address, emails, co number etc?

 

 

Ultimate is indeed an actual law firm regulated by the SRA there details found on the law society web site:

 

The Law Society - Find a solicitor

[jonifred]

The Law Society - Find a solicitor

[peter1234]

hi

 

is this to be decided today

[fermi]

hi

 

is this to be decided today

 

'Decided' is probably too strong a word, but there was this yesterday....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/200110-case-management-conference-mbna.html#post2179083

[Tricky Dickie]

Ultimate is indeed an actual law firm regulated by the SRA there details found on the law society web site:

 

The Law Society - Find a solicitor

 

Ultimate Law is indeed an actual law firm,one who specialises in Claims Management for people wanting to wipe out their debts using the unenforceability argument.

Confusingly their owner Daniella (can't spell her surname) was who all the media reports quoted as saying that '100,000 cases are stayed' 'landmark decision' 'end of the line for unenforceability claims 'etc which started this thread in the first place.

Anyone who can work out where she is coming from please let me know

lots more about her early in the thread but I guess much of it now removed for fear of libel action-As Martin Lewis says they are a litigious lot these solicitors-classic lol

[steven4064]

The cases haven't been stayed yet. It may not be the "end of the line for unenforceability claims" but it may well be the end of the line for law firms "who specialises in Claims Management"

[Tricky Dickie]

The cases haven't been stayed yet. It may not be the "end of the line for unenforceability claims" but it may well be the end of the line for law firms "who specialises in Claims Management"

 

I do not understand your reasoning surely the better the case for unenforceability the more claims firms will prosper.

Indeed the whole reason that Judge Halbert acted the way he did was brought about by the number of claims submitted by CMC,s and the number which are possibly going to be submitted in the future