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Hi spam, you stick to your guns girl!!!! Bloomin mortimor clarke.....:D

 

Wishing you good luck for the 19th. Be strong and do it for all of us on here who dont get the chance to!!!!;) Thanks.. I'll certainly do my best !!:)

 

fedup xx

 

Your support means a lot. ;)

 

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best of luck tom spam, hope u are fully prepped and raring to go...

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best of luck tom spam, hope u are fully prepped and raring to go...

 

You beat me to it r&b!

 

My Outlook reminder just popped up on the screen and I was just searching out this thread when I noticed your post had moved it to the top of the list!

 

Anyway, good luck for tomorrow Spam, will keep things crossed for you ;)

 

Cheers

Rob

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Thanks everybody... :)

 

Must admit I'm seriously nervous.. I shall spend time this afternoon getting my paperwork in order and get everything I need to hand.

 

A copy for me and a copy for the judge..... Nothing for MC is that right?

 

I just hope I'm prepared for every eventuality..

 

Fingers and toes crossed...

 

 

Spam. :D

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hi spam,

id make sure they get a copy so u dont look petty in front of the DJ. in my experience it saves any awkwardness, time and shows u in a good light.

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A copy for me and a copy for the judge..... Nothing for MC is that right?

 

 

Correct. Would MC have a copy for you? :roll:

You're too kind r&b.

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Tell you what... I'll do a copy for MC but hide it in my bag and only bring it out if it looks like it could be used to my advantage. ;)

 

Thanks guys. :)

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Hi Spam

 

I've just posted an update of todays news on my opposition to the AoE application by MC/Phoenix on my thread here;

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/123971-ccj-set-aside-help-5.html#post2373183

 

I was just thinking there may be a snippet which may be useful to you regarding paperwork from MC/Phoenix not being in order.

 

Sorry I can't be any more specific than what I've said in my thread, but it's just a guess that their Deed of Assignment is dodgy.

 

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Rob

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Morning all. :)

 

Well THE day is here and the postie has been and this is what he brought.

 

A letter from MC dated 18.8 09

 

Posted, faxed and emailed to XXXXX County Court copy to Spam..

 

*** Urgent Hearing 19th August 2009****

 

Phoenix V Spam

 

We write in reference to the above matter.

 

We can confirm that the Claimant consents to the Judgement dated 25/02/09 being set aside with there to be no order for costs.

 

We do not propose attending the hearing as we have set out our client's representations above and trust that our attendance can be excused in order to save costs. No discourtesy is intended to the court.

 

Kindly place this letter in the court file

 

We thank you for your assistance in the matter and await your directions in due course.

 

MC.

 

 

Obviously I shall still attend.. it goes without saying... but what do I do now???

 

I did want to at least claim my costs for this as I said it cost me almost £200 in applications...

 

20 min hearing = £10 per minute:rolleyes:...

 

Any advice on how I deal with this now would be really welcome..

 

Thanks,

 

Spam.:)

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A letter from MC dated 18.8 09

 

Posted, faxed and emailed to XXXXX County Court copy to Spam..

 

*** Urgent Hearing 19th August 2009****

 

 

... posted faxed and emailed ... :rolleyes:

 

A definite sign of brown trousers syndrome ;)

 

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Rob

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lol....thats excellent....i really hope that does wot it says on the tin spam (all 3 tins lol)....i see where rob is coming from and agree to an extent, but before u started all this wud u have paid that to be rid of it?

ur work looks like it has paid off my friend im made up for u...go n get it signed n sealed.

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Bl:):)dy hell Spam!

I'd say a victory, and as you say attend court and go for your costs! :D

 

They may consent to the set aside, but I'd say it's not up to them to decide whether they are liable for costs!

 

Go for it!

 

Cheers

Rob

 

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

I agree, attend and go for costs.

 

Good Luck!

 

 

Jeff.

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Bl:):)dy hell Spam!

 

I'd say a victory, and as you say attend court and go for your costs! :D

 

They may consent to the set aside, but I'd say it's not up to them to decide whether they are liable for costs! I don't want to be greedy... just the money back for the applications would do ...:)

 

Go for it!

 

Cheers

Rob

 

lol....thats excellent....i really hope that does wot it says on the tin spam (all 3 tins lol)....i see where rob is coming from and agree to an extent, but before u started all this wud u have paid that to be rid of it? I agree I would, and I won't push the matter but these so and so's don't deserve to get away with it.. I'd rather give the money to CAG.. and it would be poetic justice if it came from Marlins Pockets..;-)

ur work looks like it has paid off my friend im made up for u...go n get it signed n sealed.

 

Don't forget to take the letter with you Spam, just in case the Judge hasn't got a copy of it in front of him/her. (Unlikely though)

I have it in my sweaty little hand ... I may even laminate it...:grin:

Cheers

Rob

 

Thanks again you two... you've kept me sane... well almost:rolleyes:.. I shall see what the hearing brings.. it's not over 'til the fat lady sings :eek: so I will see if I get an opening to apply for the costs of the applications and go from there.

 

I'm still blumming shakin' despite this turn of events..

 

Oh well onwards and upwards.

 

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Hi Spam

 

Regarding your costs, I don't think you'd be pushing your luck to go for costs other than the application fees etc., I'd say you were entitled to them, after all this case wasn't of your making.

 

I'd wait until near the end or after the Judge has decided the set aside should be granted as it is unopposed, then make your own opening to bring the subject up. If you get a good Judge this should be quite easy, and the Judge may even bring up the subject him/herself!

 

Thanks again you two... you've kept me sane... well almost:rolleyes:.. I shall see what the hearing brings.. it's not over 'til the fat lady sings :eek: so I will see if I get an opening to apply for the costs of the applications and go from there.

 

I'm still blumming shakin' despite this turn of events..

 

Well at least if you need to visit the loo at the court you won't be caught out ... as the old saying goes; 'One mans brown trouser syndrome is another mans' (or ladys') toilet paper'. I bet they've put all the spare copies of MCs letter in there!

 

Oh well onwards and upwards.

 

Spam. :)

 

What time is your hearing scheduled for, does it just say 'afternoon'? (Just so we know when to expect you back ;))

 

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Rob

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Hi Spam

 

What time is your hearing scheduled for, does it just say 'afternoon'? (Just so we know when to expect you back ;))

 

Cheers

Rob

 

Thanks Rob, :D

 

It's at 2pm... so I should really start getting myself ready and stop playing around on here.... was so tempted to get involved in Craftygirls Phoenix fight but I must stay focused on mine for the mo!!

 

I'll be back...

 

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Wow, spam, that's a turn up! Well done, go get those costs this afternoon...

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Hi Spam

 

Regarding your costs, I don't think you'd be pushing your luck to go for costs other than the application fees etc., I'd say you were entitled to them, after all this case wasn't of your making.

 

I'd wait until near the end or after the Judge has decided the set aside should be granted as it is unopposed, then make your own opening to bring the subject up. If you get a good Judge this should be quite easy, and the Judge may even bring up the subject him/herself!

 

 

good point and tactic

im not tryin to put u off this spam....just a diff perspective.

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