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I've been having a Google, and have found this at Companies House:

WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information

Name & Registered Office:

CALL SERVE LIMITED

THE OLD COURT HOUSE

HIGH STREET

WHITCHURCH

BUCKS

HP22 4JS

Company No. 04559911

 

spacer.gifspacer.gifspacer.gifspacer.gif Status: Active

Date of Incorporation: 11/10/2002

 

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature of Business (SIC(03)):

6523 - Other financial intermediation

Accounting Reference Date: 31/01

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/01/2007 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)

Next Accounts Due: 30/11/2008 OVERDUE

Last Return Made Up To: 11/10/2008

Next Return Due: 08/11/2009

Last Members List: 11/10/2008

Previous Names: Date of change Previous Name 30/01/2003 BLACK WATCH LIMITED

WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information

Name & Registered Office:

CREDIT SECURITY LIMITED

THE OLD COURT HOUSE

HIGH STREET

WHITCHURCH

BUCKS

HP22 4JS

Company No. 00922180

 

spacer.gifspacer.gifspacer.gifspacer.gif Status: Active

Date of Incorporation: 14/11/1967

 

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature of Business (SIC(03)):

6523 - Other financial intermediation

Accounting Reference Date: 31/01

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/01/2007 (FULL)

Next Accounts Due: 30/11/2008 OVERDUE

Last Return Made Up To: 05/12/2007

Next Return Due: 02/01/2009 OVERDUE

Last Members List: 05/12/2007

Previous Names: No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.

Now Credit Security Ltd and Callserve are the same.

Callserve seems to have been called 'Black Watch Ltd'

BLACK WATCH LIMITED, company number 03745557, credit report, annual accounts and free company monitoring

Here's Black Watch at Companies House:

WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information

Name & Registered Office:

BLACK WATCH LIMITED

THE OLD COURT HOUSE

HIGH STREET

WHITCHURCH

BUCKS

HP22 4JS

Company No. 03745557

 

spacer.gifspacer.gifspacer.gifspacer.gif Status: Active

Date of Incorporation: 01/04/1999

 

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature of Business (SIC(03)):

7499 - Non-trading company

Accounting Reference Date: 30/04

Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/04/2008 (DORMANT)

Next Accounts Due: 31/01/2010

Last Return Made Up To: 01/04/2008

Next Return Due: 29/04/2009

Last Members List: 01/04/2008

Previous Names: Date of change Previous Name 30/01/2003 CALL SERVE LIMITED

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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This is the Old Court House, Whitchurch:

Buckinghamshire Family History Society - The Old Court House, Whitchurch

I found it on a family history site, does anyone have a better photo? It shows up on Google maps as a long building, and there's at least one hairdresser's at the same address.

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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This is the home page the CSA email address refers to:

https://www.credsec.com/

Here's Credit Security's CSA entry:

CSA Website

Credit Security Ltd

 

The Old Court House

High Street

 

Whitchurch

HP22 4JS

 

Contact: Mr L Slade

Phone: 0845 1222975

Fax: 0845 1222994

Email: [email protected]

Link:

Service: ABGLMT

Area: UK

Region: SE

Type: Full

 

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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CAG search under 'Credsec':

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/search.php?searchid=2056936

CAG search under 'Call Serve':

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/178393-thank-you-help-debt.html?highlight=Call+Serve#post1925816

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/162726-dilemma-about-call-serve.html?highlight=Call+Serve#post1745888

Has anyone actually heard from Call Serve, Credit Security Ltd, or 'Credsec' recently?

Received a letter from them, anything?

The Old Court House, Whitchurch Bucks is a long, low antique building, that appears to have several shops trading in it. Here's a bigger photo:

Priory Hotel, Whitchurch:: OS grid SP8020 :: Geograph British Isles - photograph every grid square!

It appears that all of the above DCAs were in fact the same person, who appears to have turned a garage at the back of the building into an office!?

Look at the document here, No. 5, Page 2:

Development Control Committee Applications

 

Now, he's listed as a CSA member, but his company accounts are overdue. The Callserve website - which was the same as Credit Security Ltd bar name and slightly different phone number - has gone.

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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However, the Alliance and Leicester Billpay site still has both Credit Security Ltd and Call Serve Limited listed:

https://www.billpayment.co.uk/scripts/who.asp

So, is this (under several names) still a DCA?

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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I know that this is now the first search returned on Google, so if you're having dealings with this company, join the Consumer Action Group and tell us! :D

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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CAG search under 'Credsec':

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/search.php?searchid=2056936

CAG search under 'Call Serve':

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/178393-thank-you-help-debt.html?highlight=Call+Serve#post1925816

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/162726-dilemma-about-call-serve.html?highlight=Call+Serve#post1745888

Has anyone actually heard from Call Serve, Credit Security Ltd, or 'Credsec' recently?

Received a letter from them, anything?

The Old Court House, Whitchurch Bucks is a long, low antique building, that appears to have several shops trading in it. Here's a bigger photo:

Priory Hotel, Whitchurch:: OS grid SP8020 :: Geograph British Isles - photograph every grid square!

It appears that all of the above DCAs were in fact the same person, who appears to have turned a garage at the back of the building into an office!?

Look at the document here, No. 5, Page 2:

Development Control Committee Applications

 

Now, he's listed as a CSA member, but his company accounts are overdue. The Callserve website - which was the same as Credit Security Ltd bar name and slightly different phone number - has gone.

 

I sent them a CCA request several months back and received absolutely ziltch........:(

So I thought after a while that I would have some fun and tried to phone them. I could have waited for ages, the usual 'all our operators are busy' but I gave up in the end.

So then sent them another letter telling them they could pi** o** from now on ;) . I've still not heard a thing from them:p

 

Interesting hey:)

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that likes to do a bit of 'DCA Stalking' when I get a letter from a new company!

 

Credit Security were one of them at the end of last year, they started sending increasingly threatening letters on behalf of Wescot, who were in turn sending letters on behalf of Halifax.

 

Love the research (hadn't thought of going down the planning application route), I always start with Companies House (the Law Society for DCA solicitors), then google DCA address to see who shares the 'impressive' address, I like to finish with a quick fly over their office on google earth. It is always nice to know that the 'big nasty DCA' is actually some old git in a converted garage (or cowshed as in Marlins case).

 

Good luck with the DCA stalking

 

Pookey

I'm in the DCA kicking business ..........and business is good!!!!

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Very interesting ageless. :)

The letters DCAs send are meant to scare the wits out of you, so it's always worth checking them out through Google searches.

I like to think of it as a DCA 'reverse trace'. :p

I think it's a shame to run a DCA under cover of such a beautiful building, in a very picturesque part of the country.

A hairdresser - okay. Indian restaurant - okay. Former/possible hotel - okay.

But 'debt buyer/threat monkey' - eeewww!:D

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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Just for completeness, I usually look at the OFT Consumer Credit Licence database.

 

With the usual DCA smoke and mirrors, we see that Credit Security has a licence, but Call Serve's has lapsed. However, Credit Security use Call Serve as a trading name. I'm not sure of the implications of this; if a business trades under another business's name, that is 'passing off', though of course Credit Security are not going to sue themselves (not even a DCA is that stupid...). They have declared the Old Court House address as their registered office, principal place of business and correspondence adddress.

 

However, Credit Security's entry on the Information Commissioners Office database makes no mention of Call Serve, though a company is obliged to provide all the names under which it trades to Information Commissioners Office. The address they give is:

 

CREDSEC HOUSE

OXFORD ROAD

STONE

AYLESBURY

BUCKINGHAMSHIRE

HP17 8PL

 

Overall, then, a standard DCA setup - slack drills in admin and compliance.

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Thanks SP :)

Credsec House is also the home of BP Car Finance Ltd

Bp Car Finance Ltd.

The Registration number for the above is also:

Direct Marketing Data: E-mail data, postal, business and consumer marketing lists from David & Andrews.net

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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Credit Security and Call Serve are the same company operating from the same address as above, The Old Court House in Whitchurch. Both companies moved to this address beginning of 2008 from the old address of Credsec House, Oxford Road, Stone shown on other searches.

 

Credit Security and Call Serve have different telephone numbers but you go through to the same callcentres. Each company I think deals with different accounts and different clients they try and collect for. I think both companies never buy debts either, they just work on behalf of their clients trying to collect the debts. They therefore will never carry out legal action themselves from my experience of them and if no money is collected the accounts will be returned to the clients.

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This is the Old Court House, Whitchurch:

Buckinghamshire Family History Society - The Old Court House, Whitchurch

I found it on a family history site, does anyone have a better photo? It shows up on Google maps as a long building, and there's at least one hairdresser's at the same address.

 

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I have been dealing with these as well. I have had numerous letter from them. But everytime i call I get the "All operators are twidling their thumbs whilst watching funny videos on youtube. Your call is blah blah blah" or words to that effect and everytime I try to get to their website, there is nothing there and I am recommended to visit an internet service provider or something similiar.

 

If I owe the amount, then I am willing to make payments to pay this off. However, I cannot get hold of them to arrange for payment!!! The last letter says, and I quote:

 

"The documents for legal action are now being prepared by my department and if judgment is obtained, this could:

 

COST YOU MONEY

PREVENT YOU OBTAINING FURTHER CREDIT

 

Send a payment IMMEDIATELY to stop this action being taken.

 

Yours faithfully (followed by a squiggle)"

 

Can you advise my next step? Thanks in advance!

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Maybe some news.

Property search - details

Last Updated: 05-11-2008

Credsec House

The property is an attractive brick built building with a pitched slate roof, which was constructed in the early 1980’s, and benefits include; on-site car spaces for around 18 vehicles, great landscaping, kitchenette, W.C.s etc. RENT FROM £10 PER SQ FT.

 

Agrisystems House

This property is an attractive brick built building with a pitched slate roof, which was constructed in the early 1970’s and benefits from the following amenities; reception area, central heating, good W.C. and kitchenette facilities and on-site car parking for at least 20 vehicles. NOW FULLY LET

 

Freehold - The freehold is for sale for the entire plot, which measures approx 0.62 acres, or the buildings are for sale separately.

This is their main office. Listed here:

CALL SERVE LIMITED

and here:

CREDIT SECURITY LIMITED

The plot thickens...

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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Call Serve are listed at Companies House right now as follows:

CALL SERVE LIMITED

THE OLD COURT HOUSE

HIGH STREET

WHITCHURCH

BUCKS

HP22 4JS

Company No. 04559911

spacer.gif spacer.gif spacer.gif spacer.gif Status: Active

Date of Incorporation: 11/10/2002

 

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature of Business (SIC(03)):

6523 - Other financial intermediation

Accounting Reference Date: 31/01

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/01/2007 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)

Next Accounts Due: 30/11/2008 OVERDUE

Last Return Made Up To: 11/10/2008

Next Return Due: 08/11/2009

Last Members List: 11/10/2008

Previous Names: Date of change Previous Name 30/01/2003 BLACK WATCH LIMITED

Here's Credit Security Ltd at Companies House:

CREDIT SECURITY LIMITED

THE OLD COURT HOUSE

HIGH STREET

WHITCHURCH

BUCKS

HP22 4JS

Company No. 00922180

spacer.gif spacer.gif spacer.gif spacer.gif Status: Active

Date of Incorporation: 14/11/1967

 

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature of Business (SIC(03)):

6523 - Other financial intermediation

Accounting Reference Date: 31/01

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/01/2007 (FULL)

Next Accounts Due: 30/11/2008 OVERDUE

Last Return Made Up To: 05/12/2007

Next Return Due: 02/01/2009 OVERDUE

Last Members List: 05/12/2007

Previous Names: No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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This is RedVixen's post, dated 21st February:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/144733-redv-lloydstsb-apex-mhv-2.html#post1994447

So today I get a letter form Call Serve re the Credit Card Debt - a bit surprising since DM were going to start court procedings immediately over a month ago - usual threats pay now or we will send a debt collector round - or take it to court

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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I asked:

Sent: 23 February 2009

Subject: Enquiry about Company Nos. 00922180, 04559911, 03745557

Dear Sir/Madam,

I'm writing to ask about the listed address for the above 3 companies, which is:

THE OLD COURT HOUSE

HIGH STREET

WHITCHURCH

BUCKS

HP22 4JS

This is the address the company uses as listed with Companies House, but I do not believe they occupy this property. They also have another address, below:

CALL SERVE LIMITED

Credsec House

Oxford Road

Stone

AYLESBURY

HP17 8PL

Credsec House appears to be for sale as a freehold property.

Please could you confirm whether this Company is still trading?

 

Companies House reply:

Thank you for your email.

A registered office is the address at which the Statutory Registers of the Company must be held. and made available for public inspection, unless notice is given otherwise. It is also the address to which all official notifications are

sent. The company does not need to own or occupy the building.

 

Accounts for Call Serve Limited are overdue. They should have been filed by 30/11/2008. I cannot confirm whether the company is trading.

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

- can't read/post much as eye strain's v.bad.

VIVA CAG!!! :)

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