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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Iv had Grahame white solicitors actually phone me about my 'pcn' from met parking services, not sure how they got my number, but i very politly told them no thanks, i cant confirm anything over the phone and i didnt want there help...........has anyone else had any phone calls from Grahame white solicitors.

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Iv had Grahame white solicitors actually phone me about my 'pcn' from met parking services, not sure how they got my number, but i very politly told them no thanks, i cant confirm anything over the phone and i didnt want there help...........

 

They really hate it when that happens to them, well done.

 

has anyone else had any phone calls from Grahame white solicitors.

 

Quite a few on this forum.

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Dear All

My ticket was the McD's at Stansted for apparently overstaying my welcome by 20mins!!

 

Been following this thread with great interest. I am now at the "£150 next step debt collecting agency" letter stage. Despite geting moments of panic and feeling i need to pay, i re-read the comments and they give me the confidence to do nothing, so still ignoring them!

 

Just so you all know, i have actually contacted the BBC's Watchdog programme on this matter cos' this is just wrong! They have replied and are very interested but as they are off the air at the moment, not persuing any cases. Can i suggest that you send in your MET stories as this may re-ignite their investigative enthusiasm! The journalist assigned to my case was called Michelle Cox.

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Good luck and be interested to know if anyone is no longer recieving any letters or phone calls after the solicitor letters stage!!

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i have recently had a MET letter through the door, from enfield retail park, charging me £50 for returning to mcdonalds within the 2 hour limit. i genuinly was using the faciltities and eating and drinking in the car park outside of mcdonalds. the images are very dark and you can't see anyone in the car, just one image leaving the car park and one image returning.

 

does anyone know what i can do about this? i don't know whether to ignore them or claim i cant remember who was driving? thanks :-)

 

First of all do not ever go to Crapdonals again, tell all yout mates etc etc, and vote with your feet.

Buy a flask and mak sum jam buttiz and go park up some where where there is no chance of gettin one of these so called penalties.

Do not contact them, do not pay and do not worry as Popeye the Sailorman has more power in his spinich than these clown av in thier pretend fines.

Av A New Year resolution ger on wi thi life and gioer mitherin.

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You will probably get a couple of phone calls from GW once they realise the letters and threat-o-grams have failed as they seem to getting desparate

 

I just say that it is nothing to do with me and that I don't take un-solicited phone calls and hang up before they can reply

 

To ask how they got my number would be naive in this day of the big brother state

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You will probably get a couple of phone calls from GW once they realise the letters and threat-o-grams have failed as they seem to getting desparate

 

I just say that it is nothing to do with me and that I don't take un-solicited phone calls and hang up before they can reply

 

To ask how they got my number would be naive in this day of the big brother state

 

Go ex dir, stop sending out your phone number when you call and above all do not ever put your phone number down in a shop/Warehouse/ Wollies, cos they all go on databases and then you get mithered with junk phone calls.

I gave up giving my phone number out 1n 1994 and we may have had 2 junk calls in all that time.

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My dad got a PCN from these cowboys for overstaying in MacCraps at Gatwick. He's very worried cos they've written again wittering on about "impact on his insurance"...blah blah. How can I reassure him that this will lead to nothing? He's worried about bailiffs etc even when I reassure him that these people are [problematic]! He wasn't driving the car at the time - he was on a flight from Dubai!

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what , quote "impact on his insurance..."

 

can you scan that letter and remove personal details, be interesting to see what they are actually saying

 

but "impact on his insurance"... is a load of old twaddle from the planet perky

 

Perky is a well known muppet that tries to run a PPC, plenty of posts regarding his antics , just search for PERKY on the forumns

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usual drivel, perky inspired rubbish about the insurance, totally misleading and so against Consumer Regs and probably the Fraud Act Section 2. plus fails to follow the BPA code. come on MET this is trash, can't you do better than this ??? !! meanwhile the OP should send the complaints to TS. MP, landowner papers, local interest websites etc etc your dad is rock solid safe, he was on a plane ! also remove the barcode from the PCN

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they may ,typical scare tactics we may go to court, but they wont

 

no Court in the land would give them your details of insurance, because there is nothing in law that requires you to give them the details of who was driving, let alone who else is insured to drive the car,

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that would be a very long list, hundreds of thousands of other insured drivers at least. and of course there is no such statutory requirement such as they claim. MET - you must try harder to be accurate and lawful, yes the [problem] doesn't work then but do we care ?

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maybe they need to sack their script writer, planet perky rules dont apply on the planet EARTH dont they know that :D

 

Aren't we being a bit unfair here. Surely (not Shirley) they could be submitted for some literary award.

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This and other sites are possibly having a noticible effect on MET's turnover hence the desperate measures of this latest [problem]-o-gram

 

After a couple of months they have started phoning (posing as GW) and still cannot take the hint. They seem for some reason reluctant to take it to court in spite of requests to do so or desist :?

 

Would guess as word spreads the PPC's may be forced to try their hands at the 'Peppipoo challenge' without the luxury of cherry picking cases they are fairly certain of winning. Should make their cash flow even worse and hopefully see a few go to the wall :D

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Once a month, I park in the Car Park of a local Co-Op supermarket. I'm there to clean the windows of an adjacent cottage - I cannot park outside the cottage because the road is simply too busy.

 

There's no charge for the parking, and it's two hours free.

 

I have permission from the Shop Manageress - usually get finished about nosebag time, so usually end up buying a sandwich from the shop, anyway.

 

Quite a pleasant chap does the Car Park for a Company that has featured on here.

 

He tells me that most of his time is spent chatting and litterpicking, and he writes two tickets a week!

 

The Co-Op must pay to have him there, because I can't see how else it could pay.

 

Anyway, I was talking to him last visit, and he said that his employers are livid because the revenue has dropped so much recently, due mainly to this site, and advice given by that radio money man, Martin wotsisname, [not popular with us, because he also encourages people to sack window cleaners and do it themselves]

 

So turn the screws a bit more ladies and gents, it's hurting them!!

 

Sam

All of these are on behalf of a friend.. Cabot - [There's no CCA!]

CapQuest - [There's no CCA!]

Barclays - Zinc, [There's no CCA!]

Robinson Way - Written off!

NatWest - Written off!

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Looks like it's worked with my dad - he's now so scared he's going to pay it - what is it with these people - why are they allowed to operate?? Also has anyone ever received a reply from MacCrappies - I've tried twice with no luck - anyone got an e-mail address?

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