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Hi Guys

 

Applied for my CCA in October to which Experto only today responded with what they say is what MBNA have on file as my agreement. Not sure what to make of this, as this isnt the agreement I would have signed and returned to them when I made my application for Credit Card. Basically what they have sent back is 5 pages of what they say is my agreement. It is titled "Credit Card Agreement Regulated By The Consumer Credit Act 1974", what sticks out like a sore thumb is the lack of signature on this "agreement". On page 4 is has a section with a ticked box in it, is this supposed to be my signature? I guess without a signed document, this agreement is inadmissable as anyone could have put this document together.

 

What do you guys/girls suggest I do as my next form of action?

 

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Hi Ali

 

You may have better luck if you start your own thread and post up a copy of the contract.

 

I think it would be difficult to obtain an opinion without sight of the CCA.

 

Good luck

 

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Ali, as advised, if you start your own thread and pop a link here for us to find then you can be advised for your own situation. Is this an online application ? As that would only require ticking. Before a certain date though a paper copy also had to be signed.

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Ali, as advised, if you start your own thread and pop a link here for us to find then you can be advised for your own situation. Is this an online application ? As that would only require ticking. Before a certain date though a paper copy also had to be signed.

 

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Hi

 

Its been very quite however I did recieve another reduced settlement offer today, not sure where they get the figures from but they are not anywhere near as generous as MBNA's offers!

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Hi All

 

I hope all is well.

 

Not much to report although I received a letter from Debt Help Services(another trading style of 1st Credit) asking me to contact them regarding repayment.

 

Is it worth sending an account in dispute letter again to these guys or is it best to ignore them? I just want to make sure that should they ever choose to litigate I have covered the bases.

 

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Dear Sirs,

 

Account Ref

 

Account in Dispute

 

 

This account is in dispute. Please return to original creditor for resolution of dispute.

 

Further correspondence from you will be read and filed only.

 

Etc, etc..

 

 

Paper trail established. :-) Send via Free proof of posting only. Dont waste money on recorded or special delivery costs for these people. As long as you have proof that you sent it and it isnt returned by the post office then it has been delivered. :)

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Dear Sirs,

 

Account Ref

 

Account in Dispute

 

 

This account is in dispute. Please return to original creditor for resolution of dispute.

 

Further correspondence from you will be read and filed only.

 

Etc, etc..

 

 

Paper trail established. :-) Send via Free proof of posting only. Dont waste money on recorded or special delivery costs for these people. As long as you have proof that you sent it and it isnt returned by the post office then it has been delivered. :)

 

 

Excellent thanks CB! I wonder what they will do, the contract is flakey the default is dodgy. If they had accepted my original repayment offer they would have had over £1000 off of me by now.

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Excellent thanks CB! I wonder what they will do, the contract is flakey the default is dodgy. If they had accepted my original repayment offer they would have had over £1000 off of me by now.

 

Hopefully and if they have any sense then they will return the account to the original creditor. :rolleyes:

 

Sadly, they hope to bully and pressure people into repaying. I find it hard to believe that creditors were no prepared to accept short to mid term compromises in the early stages. They would have saved themselves £thousands in administration and legal costs and people would have felt honour bound to repay someone who had shown some consideration for a situtation that many of us didnt ever think we would find ourselves in.

 

But they didnt and because of this dodgy dealings by the creditors in the early stages of the contracts have now come to light. They only have themselves to blame.

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Hopefully and if they have any sense then they will return the account to the original creditor. :rolleyes:

 

Sadly, they hope to bully and pressure people into repaying. I find it hard to believe that creditors were no prepared to accept short to mid term compromises in the early stages. They would have saved themselves £thousands in administration and legal costs and people would have felt honour bound to repay someone who had shown some consideration for a situtation that many of us didnt ever think we would find ourselves in.

 

But they didnt and because of this dodgy dealings by the creditors in the early stages of the contracts have now come to light. They only have themselves to blame.

 

Wise words CB, that is exactly the situation with me and I am sure many others. The fact they were not compassionate or helpful when discussing my case led me to this website to find out my rights which in turn led me to dispute the debt.

 

The fact is they have also added almost £2k in additional charges to the original balance thus making a bad situation worse. Personally due to the way MBNA and subsequent DCA's have spoken to me and handled the situation has made me more determined to defend my corner.

 

The help of you and others with this has been greatly appreciated.

 

All the best

 

B

 

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I requested all information from Experto Credite back in July 2010, only today have they responded with a letter, stating that I need to go back to MBNA to get this information. However Experto want me to propose to them repaying the outstanding balance.

 

Is there any recourse in the fact that Experto admit they have limited information but are not providing it as requested as well as the time it has taken them to respond?

 

Also can I not refer the debt back to MBNA as a result of the response from Experto, given that MBNA hold all the information?

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I requested all information from Experto Credite back in July 2010, only today have they responded with a letter, stating that I need to go back to MBNA to get this information. However Experto want me to propose to them repaying the outstanding balance.

 

Is there any recourse in the fact that Experto admit they have limited information but are not providing it as requested as well as the time it has taken them to respond?

 

Also can I not refer the debt back to MBNA as a result of the response from Experto, given that MBNA hold all the information?

 

 

Hi alimehmet

 

Have you sent a SARS to MBNA? Have they provided an enforcable contract?

 

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You need to resist folding under pressure from experto as the common consensus is that if they have your account its probably defective in some way shape or form.

My mbna accounts went to them after mbna racked up a further 9 months of charges but it did go with a defective default notice as well which was helpful.

I've only had limited contact from experto after i told them the cca was improperly executed,the default notice was defective and if they wanted to take me to court they should consider bankruptcy as an option as i'm not worth anything as it is,not being a homeowner etc.

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Its been a long time since my last post. I stopped all payments in 2012 but have today received a letter threatening a stat demand!

 

Should I respond?

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Responding to S>O>S.

 

 

They will need to personally serve a Statutory Demand.

 

 

What is the value of the outstanding debt, bozalt - there was a change to the amount at which a Stat demand could be issued from £750.00 to £5,000 last year.

 

 

I will ask one of the site team to look in on you to advise if you should make any response to this.

 

 

IMHO, I wouldn't rush to do anything just yet.

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?439719-Bankruptcy-threshold-increased-from-£750.00-to-£5-000.00

 

 

Yes, October 2015 the minimum limit was increased to £5,000

 

 

If I recall, weren't there quite a lot of charges on this ?

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Thank you for your reply Citizenb.

 

There were around £2k in charges and the total balance is claimed to be around £7.5k.

 

 

The last payment was made in 2011 although I notice 2 x £1 credits have been applied subsequently whenever I have requested CCA from the othr DCA's they farmed it out to.

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who saying SD

scan the letter up as a PDF please.

 

 

upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi DX100UK

 

1st credit are the letter writers, copy attached for your reference.

 

I read that they got themselves into trouble in 2009 for sending out SD's.

 

Thanks

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pers i'd ignore them.

its designed to get a response.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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