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so its not the only one.. as both have the wrong date will be useful later in your ws then.
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By BankFodder · Posted
That's fine. Just to add to my site team colleague's comment above, you say that it's her ticket and nothing to do with you – but if she is the kind of person who is not Internet savvy et cetera then maybe if it goes as far as a letter of claim or even a claim, she may get quite frightened. -
Found it on underside of letter from Vanquis, same dates so a typo twice? 20210127_122016 (1).pdf
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By BankFodder · Posted
Thank you – in the drafts which you initially posted earlier on in this thread, you didn't refer to the fact that you were selling your items by way of a business. In this final letter of claim which you have sent off without checking it out with us, you have suddenly announced that you were operating as a business. The only problem with this is that if Hermes decides to to get funny about it, because you are suing as a business, they have a basis for arguing that any hearing – if there is a face-to-face hearing – should be held at their local court and not yours. It's unlikely to go to a hearing – and even if it does, it's unlikely to be a face-to-face hearing so even if the case is transferred to the local court, it won't be a problem for you because you won't have to travel. However, you decided to disclose the fact that you are trading as a business and so you put the situation at risk. We wouldn't have suggested that you lie about it – but we would have suggested that it might have been better not being mentioned. I strongly suggest that if you decide to take advice here, that you let us go through it with you and so you then don't go off and do it alone. You've given them 14 days – and on day 15 you should issue the claim. It is extremely unlikely that they will respond to you in a positive way – or at all. You should spend the next 14 days reading up on this website about the Hermes stories and in particular about bringing a small claim in the County Court. This time, please do read the material. It's important. Register on the moneyclaim website and start preparing your claim. You will be able to save your work as you go. Prepare a draft particulars of claim and I strongly encourage you to post it up here so that we can have a look and make recommendations – rather than clicking it off on your own. Keep us updated as to whether or not there is any response from Hermes, but in any event, let us know your progress on the preparation of your claim – having read up on the subject first -
DX. I have no wish to disagree, but, on this particular point, the renewal documents are clear and the DD mandate is continuous until cancelled by either party. It is not necessary to 'sign' a new one each year. H
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