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7 years in retail customer service

 

Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

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The story in short:

 

The college and the solicitors thought they had Fred by the short and curlies and were going to be able to wring him for a few thousand snackers. Turns out that far from it, they are themselves into a midden mess of epic proportions which is getting smellier and stickier by the day.

 

That's about the shortest and most accurate summary one can give, but it really doesn't convey the flavour. It's like saying that Shawshank Redemption is a prison movie, Slumdog Millionnaire a film set in India and that Mozart wrote quite a bit of music in his days. :-D

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Good luck Mr Shed, it's full of twists and turns.

At the moment we're waiting for the police to get back to us and after promising a copy of a statement imminently (that was about a fortnight ago) everything seems to have paused. Fred is planning on writing to the police legal department on whom everything is waiting apparently to see if we can hurry them up. One of the big mysteries is apparently the question of what happened to the caution. Was it never actually registered officially, although the police gave Fred to understand he had been officially cautioned and told PCAD he had been?

Did the caution get wiped off the system at some point and by whom? We suspect that is the question or one of them preoccupying the police.

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The story in short:

 

The college and the solicitors thought they had Fred by the short and curlies and were going to be able to wring him for a few thousand snackers. Turns out that far from it, they are themselves into a midden mess of epic proportions which is getting smellier and stickier by the day.

 

That's about the shortest and most accurate summary one can give, but it really doesn't convey the flavour. It's like saying that Shawshank Redemption is a prison movie, Slumdog Millionnaire a film set in India and that Mozart wrote quite a bit of music in his days. :-D

Don't forget the movie, Bookworm and your starring role.

"The Great Barrier Greef" starring Bookworm in the title role and supported by an all star cast of CAGs finest.

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Serves you right for going awol, Mr Shed.;)

It's a good job you're a fast reader.

 

I know!!! House move, job change etc etc - it mounts up!!!

 

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Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

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I know!!! House move, job change etc etc - it mounts up!!!

 

Page 37 :D

 

Well done you're flying along now. Does flapping your arms all the time help you to read fast? If so I'll try it.:-D

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they are themselves into a midden mess of epic proportions which is getting smellier and stickier by the day.

 

LOL--- Bookie--- how could you associate me with those muppets in Plymouth?:D

Apologies, if I had written the words I actually thought, I would have been CAGbotted from Croydon to Plymouth and back again. :-D

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Well done you're flying along now. Does flapping your arms all the time help you to read fast? If so I'll try it.:-D

 

Hit the half way point woohoo!!

 

Needless to say Patma the missus isnt happy and has gone to bed :D

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Fred has been diligently looking through the other side's court bundle and noticed that of all the insurance docs disclosed to him as per the judge's order at the Directions Hearing in July, they've included all except one in their court bundle and the one they've left out says that the incident happened in working time.

Now that's interesting because they've gone to great lengths, including making false statements under a statement of truth, to make it appear that the incident happened outside working time.

I'm not really clear why a person in an important position in the college would make false witness statements about this. Any ideas anyone?

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2 and a half hours later and...done!

 

All I can say is :eek:

 

And...that I am pleased I encouraged you to try and overturn the "conviction" originally all those months ago!!!!!

 

Will continue to follow with interest!

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By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

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they've included all except one in their court bundle and the one they've left out says that the incident happened in working time.

Now that's interesting because they've gone to great lengths, including making false statements under a statement of truth, to make it appear that the incident happened outside working time.

I'm not really clear why a person in an important position in the college would make false witness statements about this. Any ideas anyone?

 

Could it be because the barrier wasn't 'manned' (or at least no security guard was on the premises) to raise it at Fred's request? If it was working time, that would be the college being negligent, if outside working hours, presumably you park at your own risk?

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2 and a half hours later and...done!

 

All I can say is :eek:

 

 

Congratulations Mr Shed! Wasn't that worth burning the midnight oil? It's better than any John Grisham ain't it? - you couldn't make it up! :cool:

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Its one of the most disgraceful cases I've seen on here I must admit.

 

One of the few times when people cry "let the papers know" and I actually agree - has there been any press involvement to date?

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Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

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clue Mr Shed , is was there a "CAUTION !"

 

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Could it be because the barrier wasn't 'manned' (or at least no security guard was on the premises) to raise it at Fred's request? If it was working time, that would be the college being negligent, if outside working hours, presumably you park at your own risk?

 

Yes thanks folishgirl, I'm sure you're right. Come to think of it, the barrier was fitted with a free exit loop which should have automatically raised the barrier when a car pased over it, so if the barrier had been in proper working order, staff wouldn't have needed to be present either.

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2 and a half hours later and...done!

 

All I can say is :shock:

 

And...that I am pleased I encouraged you to try and overturn the "conviction" originally all those months ago!!!!!

 

Will continue to follow with interest!

 

Its one of the most disgraceful cases I've seen on here I must admit.

 

One of the few times when people cry "let the papers know" and I actually agree - has there been any press involvement to date?

Well done Mr Shed, you are a star and you were there right at the beginning and encouraged Fred to challenge the alleged caution.

None of us dreamed someone may already have mysterously wiped it from the system.

Well except for Lyons Davidson solicitors:eek:who'd already been told in 2008 by the police legal department that no trace of any caution existed.That didn't stop them from reminding Fred he'd been cautioned though and then getting it entered on their POC to use against him, naughty naughty!:eek::eek:

Now we wait for crumbs of information from the police while they try to investigate.

About the papers we're working on it and would welcome press involvement. Anyone know any journalists?

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I sincerely hope that the CPS prosecute the individuals concerned, once it gets to that point.

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Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

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I sincerely hope that the CPS prosecute the individuals concerned, once it gets to that point.

 

We won't let it rest if anyone tries to brush things under the carpet.

There is stuff we can't seem to find out too which maybe a good investigative journalist could dig out.

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Patma - don't go public too early. The judicial system (& the police) may not prove too co-operative if you blast it all over the press at this stage. Plus if you wait for the whole story, Fred might be able to make a bob or two for his version ;)

 

I may be able to source contacts, will check & PM you.

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