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Has anyone considered approaching the student union newspaper for PCAD? Perhaps after the dust has settled. I know that the national press would give better publicity, but the student rag would strike closer to home.

That's a good idea, AT. I already know that some from the students Union have seen this thread.;)

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Hmmmm....

 

The talk of guests just got me thinking.

 

As you may or may not know, CAG relies heavily on search optimisation to reach high ranking in search results (SEO for short). By using lots of key words, it ensures that the bots and spiders searching the threads then index the site as being of relevance to someone searching the same subject. (Those bots and spiders show as guests, obviously, hence my trend of thought, bear with me, it is relevant! :razz:)

 

For example, do a search on "bank charges" on Google and you will see that after the obligatory sponsored ads and news, CAG is on page 1. Search, I don't know "Howard Cohen", and CAG is right there too. Very useful for someone who just had a threatening letter and turns to the Internet for finding out what it's all about. There are many more examples, and by using SEO throroughly, we can make sure that when people need help, they find US.

 

Now it would appear that if you type "PCAD", or "Lyons-Davidson", or even "Plymouth College", this thread is nowhere to be seen. On a thread that's 97 pages? How so?

 

Well, I think that's because we have been using acronyms throughout, and the bots don't recognise that "PCAD" is of interest or relevance, or that LD refer to Lyons-Davidson. And that's a shame, because anyone caught in the same kind of trap as Fred was won't find help and guidance the way he did.

 

So, what can we do? Well, it's bank holiday weekend, if people aren't too busy, they could go through their own posts and edit. Where it says LD, change it to their full name, like wise PCAD etc... It's a simple copy an dpaste job, but it should see this thread being bumped up the Google pages within days. It's time-consuming, it's long and it's boring... But I think worth it.

 

Ramble over. :-)

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That is an extraordinarily good idea Bookie.

Not only will it help anyone else who they try to take for a ride but you have to believe that potential clients googling 'Lyons-Davidson' or students trying such phrases as 'Royal Sun Alliance student insurance' might get an altogether different view than the one depicted in the nice glossy brochures of these two companies.

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If you don't mind a little investigation, humiliation, and if you cross your fingers rehabilitation..............

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Well yes... Admin may well then get complaints and threats of libel etc... (they regularly do from companies who don't like their glossy image tarnished, bad for business, dontchaknow) so just let's all make sure we give them no reason and keep our facts scrupulously straight, no libellous comments etc... ;-)

 

One of the funniest ones to date remains the one about "Kelly's vegies". Honestly, search it on Google and see the way it worked really not well for Kelly and his vegies, lol.

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Incidentally I often peruse the forum without logging in so am shown as a 'guest'. This does mean that not all the 'guest' are associated with Lyons-Davidson, or Royal Sun Alliance student insurance or Plymouth College of Art and Design.

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So if I understand this correctly, we should be putting Lyons-Davidson, or

Royal Sun Alliance student insurance in our posts :D

 

So just to confirm for the thickos (me).... we need to put Lyons-Davidson or Royal Sun Alliance student insurance in our posts and it will achieve a higher google ranking?

 

Can typing in Lyons-Davidson or Royal Sun Alliance student insurance really make that big a difference?

 

Won't it just be free advertising for Lyons-Davidson or Royal Sun Alliance student insurance?

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Yes, and don't forget to mention Plymouth College of Art and Design in the same sentence as Lyons-Davidson and Royal Sun Alliance. :-D

 

Of course, it may be that this unfair legal action will be stopped, but it has to be said that Fred was very lucky to get some sound legal advice from here. Otherwise, Plymouth College of Art and Design and Lyons-Davidson and Royal Sun Alliance may well have stung him for thousands of pounds.

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Yes, and don't forget to mention Plymouth College of Art and Design in the same sentence as Lyons-Davidson and Royal Sun Alliance. :-D

 

Of course, it may be that this unfair legal action will be stopped, but it has to be said that Fred was very lucky to get some sound legal advice from here. Otherwise, Plymouth College of Art and Design and Lyons-Davidson and Royal Sun Alliance may well have stung him for thousands of pounds.

 

Classic! :lol:

 

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Just for the record Plymouth College of Art and Design was rebranded since the unfortunate subrogated insurance claim incident with Royal Sun Alliance (RSA) and is now know simply as Plymouth College of Art.

Royal Sun Alliance are sometimes known as RSA and/or R&SA and although they do specialise in student campus insurance policies through sites such as cover 4 students dot *** this is not a student insurance policy from Royal and Sun Alliance but a buildings and contents insurance policy.

Lyons Davidson are specialists (allegedly) in the field of subrogated insurance claims and it does appear to be Lyons Davidson who are the real driving force behind the subrogation claim on behalf of Plymouth College of Art and Royal Sun Alliance.

Lyons Davidson actually boast in their nice PDF brochure that they have picked up on this field of litigation as they found that insurers such as in this instance Royal Sun Alliance were loathe to pusue third parties to recover outgoings.

Lyons Davidson appear to have a large number of specialist subrogation claims experts based throughout the Country, the Bristol office of Lyons Davidson is the office dealing with the Royal Sun Alliance and Plymouth College of Art subrogated claim against Fred.

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That's a wonderful idea Bookworm. You are clever!I'll get to work immediately and start to make the changes you suggest.

It's time the world was able to access the information about Plymouth College of Art and their legal action action against Fred via their solicitors Lyons Davidson. Lets not forget Universal Security UK limited (as was) and Royal and Sun Alliance for their part in this sorry mess.

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Maybe your friend at the BBC in Leeds would be willing and able to give their colleagues in the South-West the heads up about this matter concerning the Plymouth College of Art and Design and the Royal and Sun Alliance insurance company?

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So if I understand this thread correctly, the Plaintiffs in the case are Lyons-Davidson, Plymouth College of Art and Design, and Royal Sun Alliance student insurance.

 

However, Plymouth College of Art and Design is also known to students and people talking about it as PCAD, which of course is silly, especially since they changed their name recently to Plymouth College of Art. Does Plymouth College of Art not do anything for people who are into Design anymore then? Do the students miss going to PCAD, oops I mean Plymouth College of Art and Design?

 

Royal Sun Alliance are an insurance company sometimes known as RSA, and R&SA but thats a bit unfortunate...

 

since there is also a charity known as RSA, which even more ironically enough has the stated mission of "Removing BARRIERS to social progress"! :D I kid Caggers not! do a google on RSA its one of the top results.

 

I have heard of Lyons Davidson in other portals of the interweb. I believe they started what ACS Law is now trying, by harvesting the IP addresses of innocent people, often away on holiday and demanding money for copyright breaches. I could be wrong though, I may have misread the name - Was it Lyons Davidson who pioneered this new revenue gathering technique? I am sure it was LD / Lyons Davidson.

 

Would anyone recomend using Lyons Davidson? There has obviously been lots of posts about them, but I would be unsure if Lyons Davidson would be suitable for me, as they seem rather expensive.

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I have heard of Lyons Davidson in other portals of the interweb. I believe they started what ACS Law is now trying, by harvesting the IP addresses of innocent people, often away on holiday and demanding money for copyright breaches. I could be wrong though, I may have misread the name - Was it Lyons Davidson who pioneered this new revenue gathering technique? I am sure it was LD / Lyons Davidson.

 

Could you PM me any links or other information sources about this? Possibly best not to post in thread as it would be going off topic.

 

Would anyone recomend using Lyons Davidson? There has obviously been lots of posts about them, but I would be unsure if Lyons Davidson would be suitable for me, as they seem rather expensive.

 

Fortunately for LD, I'm not going to be hiring lawyers for the kinds of litigation that they specialise in. So my personal opinions concerning them are irrelevant.

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Lyons Davidson claim the following in their lovely brochure:

 

"Our success is based

on our willingness to invest and our ability to innovate.

The result has been a service recognised as outstandingly

effective, prompt and cost efficient by our clients." :lol:

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since there is also a charity known as RSA, which even more ironically enough has the stated mission of "Removing BARRIERS to social progress"! :grin: I kid Caggers not! do a google on RSA its one of the top results.

You couldn't make it up could you?

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I could be wrong though, I may have misread the name - Was it Lyons Davidson who pioneered this new revenue gathering technique? I am sure it was LD / Lyons Davidson.

 

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Are you sure you don't mean Davenport Lyons? They are involved in alleged illegal downloads of music and games.
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Yes, it is Davenport-Lyons, as seen on Watchdog, who specialise in the copyright issues, and they have, as far as I know, no connection whatsoever to Lyons-Davidson, who represent Plymouth College of Art, or maybe Royal Sun Alliance, I have kind of lost the plot here. :razz:

 

Anyway, just to clarify that as far as we know, there are no connection between Davenport-Lyons and Lyons-Davidson. Incidentally, my home town is Lyon(s) in France, and there are no connections there either. :-D

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How very bizarre.... my good friend David Son has a home in Lyon(s) and he tells me one the directors of Royal Sun Alliance lives nearby in an old building inspired by the Plymouth College of Art....

 

Ok I think we might be stretching this out a bit now

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