Locked in car park

[Patma]

Goodnight all, it's a busy day tomorrow, so it's time for some sleep for me.

Don't know if I will though there's too much to think about;)

[Bookworm]

Just back from dropping kids off to Gatwick, and off to tribunal of my own shortly, just wanted to catch up...

 

May I suggest that once this is put to bed, you guys create a 2nd thread with the whole timeline and developments you can't discuss now so us plebs can have a clear idea of what went on?

[Patma]

Good luck Bookworm with your tribunal. Fingers crossed for you.

 

As soon as ever we can I promise you , you'll get the whole story, every last bit.

[Conniff]

Just back from dropping kids off to Gatwick, and off to tribunal of my own shortly, just wanted to catch up...

 

May I suggest that once this is put to bed, you guys create a 2nd thread with the whole timeline and developments you can't discuss now so us plebs can have a clear idea of what went on?

 

 

It's men so have that top blouse button undone - easy win.

[labrat]

good luck fred.

 

i take it this development is what i think it is...

 

 

just kidding im as clueless as the rest of us

[Annoying Twit]

Would it be rather embarrassing if a barrister were to lose a case against a litigant in person? Especially if the case was well known among his/her peers? Would that extend to the law company involved? Would they somehow lose face, at least to a small degree?

[Toulose LeDebt]

Would it be rather embarrassing if a barrister were to lose a case against a litigant in person? Especially if the case was well known among his/her peers? Would that extend to the law company involved? Would they somehow lose face, at least to a small degree?

 

 

Yes it is conceivable that such embarrassment will be in abundance especially if the theory I forwarded to Patma last night concerning the involvement of the barrister and the subsequent progression of the case turns out to be correct.

They have already been ordered by the Court to effectively explain themselves over reneging on the deal brokered by the Judge on the 1st July, one must assume that this small matter alone will have caused some huffing and puffing in chambers.

[sweetnsour]

I think TLD & Patma should open up their private investigation company, you guys are so good. I am reading this thread with interest, the plot gets deeper and deeper.

 

keep the good work up:D

[natalie]

Would it be rather embarrassing if a barrister were to lose a case against a litigant in person? Especially if the case was well known among his/her peers? Would that extend to the law company involved? Would they somehow lose face, at least to a small degree?

 

It depends, barristers dont get to pick and choose cases, they cant refuse a case, so if they get handed something that is never going to win in a million years, then there isnt a lot they can do. If the barrister is involved in unethical conduct, then that is a different story completely.

[natalie]

Good luck today with the police Fred and Pat.

 

starting early today are we? Daresay you have a lot of work to get through huh?

[Patma]

I think TLD & Patma should open up their private investigation company, you guys are so good. I am reading this thread with interest, the plot gets deeper and deeper.

 

keep the good work up:D

How about it TLD, we could do well?

You can cover the midlands and I'd take care of the southwest. Any offers for the northeast and south east? and there will be vacancies for Wales and Scotland too?

 

We can arrange to close down for test matches:D

[Patma]

Thanks for your good wishes everyone. We'll be setting off before too long because it'll take a while to get there and we want to be sure we can find it.

I'll get a message via TLD with an update about it as soon as it's over.

Enjoy the cricket, TLD and anyone else who's a fan.

[kiptower]

best of luck Pat and Fred

[Yorky2008]

Good luck!

[car nut]

good luck

[hightail]

We can arrange to close down for test matches:grin:

 

In which case I'll happily help.

[Toulose LeDebt]

How about it TLD, we could do well?

You can cover the midlands and I'd take care of the southwest. Any offers for the northeast and south east? and there will be vacancies for Wales and Scotland too?

 

We can arrange to close down for test matches:D

 

 

It's certainly a good idea and I particularly like the thought of stopping work for cricket but I fear that 'Private eye' companies like Beaumont Consultants of 16A Broadway, Peterborough, PE1 1RS might have already cornered the market, certainly where Lyons-Davidson are involved.

Edited August 28, 2009 by Toulose LeDebt

[geoff1248]

Quite amazing how many businesses have become embroiled in this case. Not surprising the costs are in the region of £10k and counting....

[Stagparty]

Happy to give you a hand in the South West Mr TLD

[patdavies]

A thought occurs to me (that TLD might like to consider) about the admissibilty of an caution, as section 11 of the Civil Evidence Act 1968 provides only for admissibility of convictions "by or before a court"

[Toulose LeDebt]

A thought occurs to me (that TLD might like to consider) about the admissibilty of an caution, as section 11 of the Civil Evidence Act 1968 provides only for admissibility of convictions "by or before a court"

 

That is an outstanding point to make. Thank you very much.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Quite amazing how many businesses have become embroiled in this case. Not surprising the costs are in the region of £10k and counting....

 

Lyons-Davidson ran a covert means test on Fred, checked out his house, checked out his vehicle(s) etc. So at least we know who these mysterious visitors really were now.

Edited August 28, 2009 by Toulose LeDebt

[ScarletPimpernel]

They ran a covert means test on Fred, checked out his house, checked out his vehicle(s) etc. So at least we know who these mysterious visitors really were now.

 

 

They weren't really very covert, since they stuck out like canine gonads. Still 16A Broadway is hardly Thames House.

 

The actions of the en forces in this case seem to me to be excessively unsavoury, even by the standards of the lower end of the legal profession. However, I'm certain it will all be brought before the court.

[Toulose LeDebt]

I'm certain it will all be brought before the court.

 

 

Me too!!

 

The breakdown of costs claimed by Lyons-Davidson reads like a diary and in itself contains a plethora of information about the claimants representatives behaviour, the behaviour and involvement level of certain employees of PCAD, and some not inconsiderable attempts at communicating with a company on what strangely turned out to be its last day of trading.

 

And amusingly what appears to be flurries of activity in response to certain key posts on this thread.:-D

Edited August 28, 2009 by Toulose LeDebt

[hightail]

They ran a covert means test on Fred, checked out his house, checked out his vehicle(s) etc. So at least we know who these mysterious visitors really were now.

 

Probably the same people who staked out my house. They're so good they described my husband as 6ft tall, in his mid forties and of medium build. He was furious their 'evidence' wasn't used in court as he's 5ft 9", in his late fifties and decidedly rotund