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    • Just to clear it up, sorry I don't make sense sometimes. I have paid £4000 £1200 of that was suppose to clear the £1200 debt.   Meaning I have sent a extra £2800 on top of my normal mainternance money.   Thank you
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    • Hi, I shown my key worker a letter that was sent to me saying that I owe £1200, she setup a standing order around 2021, this was to pay back money I owed, with my mental health status I have had complex issues to deal with and I just simply forgot about this standing order so it has been running for about 3.5 years acording to my key worker, anyway I'm not worried about the money that was sent that I call a overpayment, it went towards supporting my child's household so I am just happy with that, I am a little sad that I am being told I still owe this £1200, I have sent bank statements over 3 years worth but they have not taken away this £1200 bill and still say I owe it   Thank you
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14 years ago my stepfather went bankrupt and lost his business and they also took their house. The house was sold at a £30,000 shortfall, 15K of which was *supposed* to have been wiped out as part of the redundancy. The other 15K became my mums debt as she wasn't declared bankrupt.

 

For 14 years my mum has been paying monthly instalments to clear her side of the debt. Up until a couple of years ago this wasn't a problem with Bradford and Bingley. Then all of a sudden they have started asking for the amount to be means tested annually. My mum co-operated and carried on paying her instalments without fail. They then began phoning asking for larger and larger amounts, asking them to take out loans to repay the full debt and even convincing them to put their current house on the market to repay the debt!! Thankfully, the house didn't sell and they removed it from the market.

 

Bradford and Bingley then, out of the blue, started playing hardball and referred the case onto their solicitors who are now badgering my mum for ridiculous sums of money and have just recently took her to court.

 

*We've* got her outstanding debt at approx £10,000, Bradford and Bingleys solicitors are trying for £68,000!!!!

 

How can they possibly try for this amount?!?!!? She had a non-contracted agreement (but plenty of letters confirming the arrangement) that no interest would be added to the original 15K debt provided she never defaulted on a payment and she hasn't for 14 years! She has even been paying while going through the recent court case (the first hearing seemed to go in my mums favour but they're back in Dec and have been warned that if it isn't sorted prior to this the costs will spiral).

 

B&B's solicitors have now told her they want the 14 years interest which is £38,000 in additon to the original £30,000 debt? We can't figure out where they have got £30,000 from, unless they have somehow re-instated my stepdads £15,000 debt that was supposed to have been wiped in the bankruptcy. (Can anyone tell me if they can do this)

 

The latest offer she gave B&B is a lump sum payment of £5,000, half of what we know she owes. B&B rejected that and came back with "pay £80 a month for the rest of her life and they will claim £25,000 from the sale of her house when she's dead"!!!

 

These people are sickening me to my very core and I'm looking for any help or advice you can offer her. The solicitor she is using is trying her best but not getting very far against a multi-national law firm, who just won't budge on these ridiculous sums of money! Also, it's more costs for a solicitor that my mum can't really afford in the first place.

 

Sorry it's a bit long winded but we're getting very desperate and I'm worried about my mums health through it all. If you can help please do

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hiya worried son

 

just seen your post and wanted to say hi and welcome

 

so sorry to hear of your problems and i can see its your first post, i dont have any experience of the problems you have shared im sure others more expereinced will come along soon, have you had a look at the other threads under legal perhaps there may be some info for the meantime until someone comes along to give you good advice

 

hope you sort it out, its really an eye opener once you start looking into things, but i wish you and your family the best and hope with knowledge you can sort this out

 

take care ciao for now MAZ

Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

my new motto is,,,",Taking back control of your life and home - such peace is priceless"

 

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More information will help:

 

1. did B&B obtain a possession order way back? You need to get a copy of this asap to see whether or not the court made a money judgment. This is vital because it may affect (1) whether the current claim is an abuse of process and (2) the amount of interest recoverable.

 

2. How have B&B calculated the interest?

 

3. what documentation do you have about the agreement reached?

 

4. If possible, please scan & post the claim form.

 

Regards

Nick.

 

PM me if you need to.

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