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      By little old lady · Posted

      Hi and thanks It looks like they ticked all the boxes to me but I'll try and upload the notice. I was wondering if a witness to late delivery might be considered proof - I'm assuming they posted it as normal but Royal Mail stuffed up delivery. If not then they're really saying it just has to be posted within 12 days of the incident, regardless of when it is received. Annoying! edit ok thanks Honeybee here's my 2nd (actually 3rd) attempt at anonymising, copying and uploading the notice! Sorry about the state of it - I sat on it while distracted by my dog 🙃 pcn front.pdf pcn back page.pdf
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      I see Octopus have started using the old EON 'tricks to try an install smart meters

      By tobyjugg2 · Posted

      ROFL - dont get upset just because someone (quite a lot of someones) dont want smart meters - well unless you get paid for it .. in which case ...   I assume you haven't been with Octopus long enough to be on one of the very long fixed price tariffs they offered before the prices went bonkers .. and that you dont use your electricity in the evening/lunch time if you think the 'agile type tariffs are good value .. let alone worth installing a smart meter for - high price a good disincentive for an evening cuppa eh? Let alone all your computer/tv etc time in the peak price evening or lunch time. - and boy do those peak prices instantly hammer your bill when those Russian and middle eastern issues kick off.   I would only have considered a smart meter if solar panels had been an option for me - but roof is oriented completely the wrong way. Oh - and My opinion hasn't changed since the smart meter trials 40 years ago, because neither have the issues (well not enough) but I'm happy for you. Be happy for me.
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      GroupNexus ANCR PCN - Petrol Station Roadchef Tibshelf South DE5 5 T

      By honeybee13 · Posted

      Hi. I'm afraid I've had to hide your post with the pdf files to keep this anonymous for you. You've left the PCN reference number and your car reg showing. Could you edit that and repost please? HB    
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      I see Octopus have started using the old EON 'tricks to try an install smart meters

      By aesmith · Posted

      Well naturally if you want to maintain your outrage, and retain something to bitch about, then arguing about the level of your fixed monthly DD is the way to go. You are of course perfectly free to ignore the easy solution.
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      His financial situation isn’t great, and the landlord has made lots of things up. The things he’s put isn’t true at all. My friend did tell the full truth with incoming and outgoing, I helped him fill in his form and he checked bills etc. to make sure it was right. His wage is ok, but not as good as the landlord thinks it is,  and he doesn’t have anything spare. How much are they likely to take from him? Should he send any reply?  the letter just says to take the court letter with him. 

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The guard has no more powers than you or me. He can only make a citizens arrest if he has grounds to believe your committing an offense & he can't use undue force to detain you

 

I thought that you could only make a citizens arrest if the crime could result in a penalty of five years or more. Does this apply to shoplifting?

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I thought that you could only make a citizens arrest if the crime could result in a penalty of five years or more. Does this apply to shoplifting?

 

There is no specific offence of shoplifting, it is simply theft, and this can carry a max penalty of 7 years in prison.

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I thought that you could only make a citizens arrest if the crime could result in a penalty of five years or more. Does this apply to shoplifting?

 

The legislation has changed.

 

I think you are referring to the term 'arrestable offence'.

 

There was an old definition of what an arrestable offence was:-

 

1: Offence for which the sentance is fixed by law (eg murder)

2: Arrest for which a person over the age of 21 on first conviction *may* be commited to prison for five years or more.

3:...

 

(sorry, I can't remember the rest. Its been a while since I left the force!)

 

SOCPA is now the power that dermines whether an arrest is lawful. Under Socpa I believe the 'any person' power of arrest is only for indictable offences (for which Theft doe fall under)

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Plain clothes staff carrying out licensable activity do not have to openly display their licence on their person in many cases.

 

Hi shanty

 

i know you have been told to start your own thread but i would like to say you both right and wrong.

Plain clothed staff do not have to have their license on show but they do have to have it on them at all times whilst working and to be able to show it to people/police as proof, No security other than in hiouse can be conducted without a license and a license must be on the staff at all times whilst working.

 

On a side note if the CCTV didnt work in the security office how can they prove theft ? they would be no proof of you taking an item and no proof of them removing it from your person so no offense has been commited by yourself ?

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The legislation has changed.

 

I think you are referring to the term 'arrestable offence'.

 

There was an old definition of what an arrestable offence was:-

 

1: Offence for which the sentance is fixed by law (eg murder)

2: Arrest for which a person over the age of 21 on first conviction *may* be commited to prison for five years or more.

3:...

 

(sorry, I can't remember the rest. Its been a while since I left the force!)

 

SOCPA is now the power that dermines whether an arrest is lawful. Under Socpa I believe the 'any person' power of arrest is only for indictable offences (for which Theft doe fall under)

 

Yes i can confirm the above a Citizens arrest can be carried out for an indictable offense, however if the person arrested is not handed over to Police then the arrest is unlawful and can be considered as assult/unlawful restraint as a Police officer is the only person who can release a arrested person etc.

 

e.g. if i arrest someone in relation to my job i cannot unarrest them only the police can which is why security dont like arresting people.

If any of my posts are helpful, please feel free to click my scales. All information is given as my opinion only, based on my own personal Experiences/Mistakes lol...

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Hi shanty

 

i know you have been told to start your own thread but i would like to say you both right and wrong.

Plain clothed staff do not have to have their license on show but they do have to have it on them at all times whilst working and to be able to show it to people/police as proof, No security other than in hiouse can be conducted without a license and a license must be on the staff at all times whilst working.

 

On a side note if the CCTV didnt work in the security office how can they prove theft ? they would be no proof of you taking an item and no proof of them removing it from your person so no offense has been commited by yourself ?

 

Reliable eyewitness evidence is adequate, ( not in this case no doubt)you don't have to have CCTV to prove theft.

As for the above,I don't see where I am wrong as I didn't contradict what you said..?? I WAS talking about in-house staff there where you quoted me.

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