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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Please tell me if the levy is illegal or legal !!


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Can someone please tell me if HCEO have any rights here...

 

I have received a SAR and on this is states that a levy has been made. (They have never gained access into my property). I have never signed a thing either. The levy was made against the car.

 

The car was on my driveway, out of MOT and Tax, i was waiting to scrap it. I soon made sure the car i was actually driving was no longer in my name.

 

I have since scrapped that car now.

 

Wrong or right, i dont care !

 

Do they have a right to take anything else from my property other than that car ?

 

I have received a "Notice to remove goods" because i am no longer paying them. I have had it with them, the overall debt was £3000 after all the stuff added. (original debt £1800) I have since paid £2400 and according to them i still ow £2000.... they can sing :evil:

 

Can you help please ? Thank you

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Thanx fx,

 

How would they get another ?

 

Do you know of any reason why the solicitor to the creditor would not be able to give me the information on how much of the money that has been paid, they have received ? .. they wont tell me. They keep telling me i have to deal with the bailiff.... I do not wish to as the £1800 debt now stands at a £4000 which is ludicrous.

 

Thank you

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The statutory fee scale for HCEO's is se by law and the key is was is "reasonable" .......the fees charged here are nothing of the sort. There are serious failings in the complaints system for this type of enforcement and I am aware that approaches are currently being made to ask questions on this in the House of Commons.

 

 

Which company is this?

 

If they have levied upon this car then let them remove it as it would be VERY interesting indeed what fees they would then charge.

 

The HCEO can only come into your home by peaceful means so if this is the ONLY goods that he can levy on outside I would be tempted to write to them to advise them to remove the goods (car) that they have levied upon but that you will NOT allow them into the home and I would tell the solicitor that because of the excessive fees there is now no possibility at all of paying his debt.

 

You may just find him wanting to negotiate.

 

Finally, have you considering completing an N244 to have the warrant cancelled and the debt returned back to the county court.

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Thank you Tomtubby, I'm glad you have picked up on this thread !

 

I have managed to speak with the solicitor to the creditor now and they have informed me that they have only received £1000 from the £2500 i have paid. Sherforce have so far had £1500 for one visit and no van in attendance??? the car has been scrapped now that they levy-ed on. (because the car was registered to my previous address they went to that address also on 15/5/07 even though the first payment was made on 5/4/07... then guess, they charged me for it

 

I do still have a car on the driveway belonging to my son.... he said it was ok for them to take it and he would make sure he reported it to the police as theft if they did take it! (it is registered to my son )

 

I am unsure where to go from here because i absolutely refuse to pay a Penney more to them sc*m bags, i would rather risk loosing my stuff.

 

The advantage is the warrant has expired now as the debt is over 12mths old. They simply have a "run on" to collect.I have confirmed this with the solicitor.

 

Sherforce say i still ow them £2000 after already paying £2500.

It means i would still ow a minimum of £800 to the creditor if that's the case. Even the SAR does not really show the fees i have incurred, it does state some, 1st visit EO fee... £150... this was dated 30/03/07... they actually visited 1st on 4/4/07 ?? i spoke with him direct on the driveway wen he left me all the paperwork relating to all this.

Admin,service fees and general charges added but does not state how much. The SAR clearly states they do not have a WPA and not signed.

 

They seem to charge most things to HCEO regulation part c fee 12 and have charged me for WP fee, and valuation fees. Charges have been made for DVLA & HPI search... unknown amounts.

 

Any suggestions where i can go from here !!

 

Thanx

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Hi, anyone ?

 

I forgot to mention too, do i need some kind of paperwork that shows the levy on the car ? i have never received a thing.

 

In over a year i have never had one letter from them except replies to the SAR requested and a breakdown of fees. I was only ever given the copy of the paperwork from the court showing the judgment order and their fees of £750. A thousand pound more has been added since the first visit !

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Hello, can anyone help please ? i am aware HCEO`s can not attend my property on a Sunday but tomorrow is another day !

 

The main question is... how do i stand wen this is just a "run on to collect ? " is the warrent still valid ?

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I'm not in any position to help but it seems that all your questions have been answered either directly or indirectly.

 

Have you followed tomtubby's advice in post #4?

I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.

You can also ding my gong if you prefer. :)

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Thanks palomino, i get what your saying. SORRY !

 

But is the warrant valid if they only have a run on to collect ? Is it all the same prossecess ? do the baillifs still have the same rights ? (not much i know)

 

I have so many questions !

 

Can i do this N244 if its past 12 months ? The solicitor to the creditor wont except direct payment.

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I don't know what a 'run on to collect' is.

 

Can't help with the other questions either. I think we need tomtubby to the rescue here!

I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.

You can also ding my gong if you prefer. :)

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File this form :

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/n244_e.pdf

 

With the court. It should cost you £35.00 might be more or less. However as soon as this is in all enforcement action will be suspended. You must however make sure that what you are going to do is watertight. Until this goes back to the county court and or you pay this off. I wouldnt even think of saying anything to sherforce.

So whats cooking today ?

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Hi

 

Did you find anything further regarding your situation? I am in the same boat where Marstons Group have added over £1749 worth of fees and the solicitor of the creditor states I have to deal direct.

My warrant is over 12 months as well.

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We still haven't found out what a 'run on to collect' is. Since there have been no answers to this question I can only assume no-one here knows.

I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.

You can also ding my gong if you prefer. :)

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Could you give some advice on the situation regarding the N244? If this is filed and I get the warrant suspended as I did not file a defence to the original county court action (agreed repayment plan with the creditors solicitor, who then requested a judgement by default), do the fees added by the bailiff get cancelled as well?

The original debt was £2200 and I have paid £1734. The creditors solicitor has received £1200 and Marstons and stating the balance is still £2400!

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Thanks tomtubby.

 

So to clarify, I cant get away from the ridiculous fees they have added? In order to resolve this matter I will have to pay the full outstanding balance (including the £1800 bailiff fees) even if I file the N244?

 

Thanks for your help.

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Ask the bailiff for a refund.

 

Name of bailiffs

Address 1

Address 2

Address 3

Address 4

 

[DATE]

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Re: [YOUR NAME + REF]: Your Fees and opportunity to mitigate fee error

 

I write following visits by your bailiff and ask you for the following within fourteen (14) days:

 

a) The name of the court and certificate number of the bailiff in charge

 

b) Written confirmation of your fees and charges

 

c) Truthfully confirm in writing they are lawful.

 

d) The name and address of the person or body you act for

 

If you cannot complete any of the above, please unconditionally pay me a refund of all unlawful fees and unconditionally pay me compensation of £4999.00 for failure to comply with the law and I will consider this aspect of the matter closed.

 

If I later find an irregularity with your fees within the statutory time limit of 6 years prescribed under Section 2 of the Limitation Act 1980, I will enter no further correspondence with you and automatically file a Form 4 at court for committing offences under the Fraud Act 2006. This may also involve a criminal investigation by police and your bailiff firm's director(s) may receive a criminal record for fraud, assisting an offender and benefiting from proceeds of crime.

 

This document is delivered by Royal Mail and deem it good service upon you by the ordinary course of post under Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978. It is your responsibility and in your best interests this letter is handed to the relevant person within your organisation.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

 

YOUR NAME

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The breakdown of fees supplied after asking numerous times:

 

Seizure £8

Mileage £198.56

Poundage £71.00

Possession £291.75

Valuation £170.35

Auction Commissior £10.00

Card Payment £24.00

Other £63.81

VAT £146.56

 

This is up to last month, and doesnt include the most recent visit.

They have never attended with a van.

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