Parking Ticket Euro Car Parks

[j.gilbert10]

First time on this site - so glad I found it as I came home tonight to be greeted by a Unpaid Parking Charge Notice issued by Euro Car Parks for £70. It states that I parked in a disabled Bay on Easter Sunday in a car park in . A couple of things concern me 1) I didnt go out on Easter Sunday as we had relatives round for lunch, we wouldnt have gone shopping as shops cant open on this day. I have on other occasions visited the car park in question and I did park in a disabled bay because I have a valid disabled car parking blue badge,. We never received any notice of a Parking Charge ie put on windscreen.

 

Both my partner and myself are joint registered keepers of the vehicle

I wish to dispute the charge but I was driving, can my partner dispute the charge as Registered Keeper, I dont want to get into a dispute with them as other posts on this site advise just to send a letter disputing the charge and keep it simple and dont go into any other detail with them. If they have taken a photo of my vehicle then the blue badge would have been visible.

 

There are lots of threads also on this about blue badges validity on private car parks

 

I really need some help as I dont want to pay for something that I know isnt correct.

 

What should I write to them.

Edited May 25, 2008 by j.gilbert10
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[Mossycat]

On a private car park a blue badge is irrelevent (other than for prevention of the clamping of your car). They cannot legally insist that only blue badge holders park in spaces allocated for disabled drivers (although out of courtesy most drivers respect disabled spaces).

 

First thing to do is ignore it.

 

Wait till they spent £2.50 to get the address of the registered keeper and then they will write.

 

You reply with the template letter that Bernie the Bolt wrote, and that's all you have to do.

 

They will send you quite a lot of letters, you might feel a bit intimidated when they mention court fees, bailiffs, ruining your credit rating, etc etc but none of that will happen. they rely on intimidation if you feel unsure post back here but whatever you do DO NOT PAY THEM.

 

Mossycat

[j.gilbert10]

Thanks for the reply, they have already contacted the DVLA for our details as this was the first I knew of the alleged contravention as I have never either here or anywhere else had anything stuck to my windscreen. I will however write to the DVLA advising that I am not happy that they give details out to these con-men who are trying to extort money from me, I was upset yesterday when I got the letter (demand) but now I am angry and will fight them all the way. Will keep you updated and agains thanks for your reply its comforting to know there are people out there who have been in similar situations.

[pin1onu]

I will however write to the DVLA advising that I am not happy that they give details out to these con-men who are trying to extort money from me, I was upset yesterday when I got the letter (demand) but now I am angry and will fight them all the way. Will keep you updated and agains thanks for your reply its comforting to know there are people out there who have been in similar situations.

You and lots of other are angry with the DVLA.

 

Good to see you're in fighting mood. Take heart there are plenty of people who hate these scams and are willing to offer advice.

[j.gilbert10]

Okay, still it continues -

I responded as I was advised basically acknolwdging there letter and asking them to contact the driver and I have now received the next letter (letter No 2) from them which surprise surprise states that I am not a Valid Disabled Badge Holder (I am), they have also attached a copy of the parking charge notice dated Easter Sunday 23rd March 2008 (the car didnt go out on that day)

Can someone confirm what my next letter is that I send, I have looked on the template letters and am very confused as to which one I should be sending..

Many Thanks

Mrs Still Angry but fighting all the way

[lamma]

I suggest

 

"See you in court"

[Mossycat]

Write back to them and tell them that a blue bade has no significance whatsoever on private land and unless they can quote the relevent legislation to you (which they can't) to back up their claim you will ignore all other correspondence from them. Then do just that.

 

Mossycat

[crem]

I prefer lamma's approach on this one Mossycat

[Mossycat]

I prefer lamma's approach on this one Mossycat

 

Yeah I do too but today was my one day of the year to be nice to PPC's

 

Mossycat

[Barnsley Boy]

J.Gilbert.

 

Just adding my voice to the throng.

 

Any of the approaches detailed above are perfectly valid. These tosh invoices really are not an issue. It is a person's perceptions of them and the PPCs actions which make them so. The PPCs play on peoples concerns. I'm heartened to see that you are standing up to these chancers. You will see that they are paper tigers.

 

Mossy cat - today is another day, so you can stop being nice to them.

[j.gilbert10]

Thanks to you all for that, I actually want to go to court as I have information that is going to make them look very silly I dont want to go into much detail as I know they read these forums. Thanks for all your support and words of encouragment I will keep you posted on any new developments.

Thanks again

[lamma]

they won't take you to court.

 

My preferred approach is just to ignore everything. Has anyone seen a case of a PPC issuing a court claim when the victim has blanked them completely including any Debt Collector letters (real or imaginary) and not engaged at all ? I haven't come across one.

[j.gilbert10]

My second letter simply states thank you for your letted dated XXX, I refer you to my previous letter. Oh Im sad that I may not get my day in court after I have spent so much time gathering evidence as well. I am asking for a photograph of the parking notice attached to my windowscreen, Apart from the fact I didnt visit the car park on the day they sdaid I did , I have visited on other days though and any photograph would quite clearly show a valid blue badge showing but as I already know from a conversation with their attendants they dont take photographs!!!!

 

Im afraid on this occassion they didnt pick some gullible person who frightens easily and just pays up, they picked a scorpio woman (bad move) and now theyve upset me I want to fight all the way. bring it on

[j.gilbert10]

The latest in my on going saga - Ive had many letters including an answer to my appeal 'dont remember appealing', I wasnt successful anyway and the charge still stands - also got the 'debt letter' replied to that with template letter stating dont have an account blah blah blah, had 3 more letters since, just never bothered to reply - stamps cost so much nowadays. Have collected lots more information for my day in court, Ive now had my final threat, their intention to make a Civil Claim and if I dont pay up they are going to do so many things to me its scarey - but not that scarey,. Crazy as it sounds I want to go to court, cos those extortinists (is that a word) have met their match, Im not some frail OAP who scares easily, Im a person who wont be bullied, frightened or harassed into handing over my hard earned cash when I have done nothing wrong - so heres to a nice clean fight. Will keep you updated (God dont I sound angry??)

[pin1onu]

(God dont I sound angry??)

 

You're entitled to be angry - these people are enough to get anyone annoyed. Trying to [problem] you out of your hard-earned dosh. Don't they realise there's a credit crunch going on......

 

Seriously I hope they do show in court but the likelihood is that when faced with competent defense they'll drop the case.

[j.gilbert10]

Well its been a while and Ive heard nothing - it would appear that ignoring them does work. Or maybe they are building there case against me and I am going to get my day in court. For anyone receiving one of these scrappy pieces of paper they call a PCN follow everyones advice on this site and DONT DONT DONT pay. I work quite closely with the police and when I asked a couple of officers for their advice they looked at me blankly so there is quite clearly no 'law' involvement with these kind of Notices. 1 nil to me I think.