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    • One of the things that we will need to discover through a statutory subject access request is how they verified the identity of this mystery person. Presumably that person couldn't actually give any ID so does that mean that the inspectors simply took her word for it? It will be useful to know the answers to these questions because all of these companies have duties to process your personal data accurately. If they failed to do that then they could be liable to you for the distress caused as well as any other damage. I'm just trying to envisage a scenario where a ticket inspector stops a young woman who then says that she's been travelling without a ticket. The inspector asks her her name and address and she gives the false name and address. The inspector then asks her to verify this by identification. The woman then says that she is not carrying anything with her. What happens at that point? How does it work? Does the inspector then have to take your word for it and warn her that she will be contacted with a possible sanction? If that's as far as it goes, then it seems a bit ridiculous to me that you stop somebody for travelling without a ticket – evident dishonesty. Then they give the controller their name and address which can't be verified and so the controller has to accept that and on that basis a procedure is started against the named person on the basis that the contact details which were given at the time must be true – even though that person has already demonstrated their dishonesty by travelling without a ticket. Or, are we going to find – if there is a statutory disclosure, that this person is travelling around with some documentation which identifies her as you, your husband or one of your two daughters? Which of course would be very much more serious. This is why we want a list of the rail companies – as much information as possible so that we can start forcing them to disclose information about how this all occurred. I will also be interested in sending an SAR to action fraud to see what they have done with your allegation which you made some time ago and about which you never heard anything further.
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Actually it is proper English (not Jamaican), its even found in Chaucer.

 

Around the 14th century the word 'ask' underwent a metathesis (2 sounds or letters swap place.

 

 

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Wikipedia would disagree.. they say it is actually a speech error.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metathesis_(linguistics)

 

Although I don't know whether I would believe much of what's on that site.

 

But like you say, aks was around along time ago and both aks and ask were used together. That doesn't explain the Jamaican / Carribean use of Aks because would they have been speaking english in the 14 century?

 

Perhaps its just a posh way of saying axe:rolleyes:

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Surely though, the Negro population of the Carib Islands didnt really develop until the height of the Slave Trade/Plantations etc in the 17th(th)(?) 18-19th C?

 

And the derivation we are discussing is undoutedly in use in modern Jamaican/W.Indies lingua-Franca

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Oh I have no doubt the said DCA woman wasnt using it as an Old English word and was just a mispronunciation. I was just pointing out that it was originally "proper" English.

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Oh I have no doubt the said DCA woman wasnt using it as an Old English word and was just a mispronunciation. I was just pointing out that it was originally "proper" English.

 

Sure.

 

She wasn't saying "May I aaks ye for thy paticulars...kind sir".

 

Definitely something else going on:cool:

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As long as she didn't say 'ye' and actually said 'the' because that would be a mispronunciation of Old English and Early Middle English. ;)

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Having Fun With Debitas:

(something I found on tinters)

 

> Debitas: Hello can I speak to Mr X

> Me: You are

> Debitas: Ok, can you confirm your date of birth

> Me: Nope

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: You're forgiven

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: ...

> Debitas: I guess you know what this is about - call us back (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 2:

> Debitas: Hello can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Who?

> Debitas: Mr X

> Me: Why would you like to speak to him?

> Debitas: Sorry...?

> Me: You're forgiven

> Debitas: Is this Mr X

> Me: Oh, well why don't you tell me your name first

> Debitas: That's irrelevant

> Me: But if you want to get to know me then it's only right I get to

> know you as well

> Debitas: (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 3:

> Debitas: Hello, can I speak to Mr X

> Me: He's dead

> Debitas: Oh, can you send us a copy of the death certificate?

> Me: Nope - I don't know who you are

> Debitas: We are Debitas Legal Services part of the capital one group

> Me: And...?

> Debitas: Erm, give me a sec (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 4:

> Debitas: Hello, can I...

> Me: (interupting) I was just sleeping

> Debitas: Can I speak to...

> Me: (interupting) What, I'm going back to sleep (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 5:

> Debitas: Hello, can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Only if I can speak to Santa Claus

> Debitas: Sorry (hangs up)

 

> Me: Why hello Debitas, I was worried about you

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Where have you been, you've not called since last night

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X please

> Me: But you haven't explained why you didn't call me

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: Well it's been 12 hours since your last call

> Debitas: Are you Mr X?

> Me: What does your screen tell you?

> Debitas: I need to confirm some security questions

> Me: That's nice

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth?

> Me: Maybe - can you ask me nicely

> Debitas: I'll call you back in 20 mins (hangs up)

 

 

> Debitas: Hello, can I speak to Mr X?

> Me: Who?

> Debitas: Mr X

> Me: And why do you want to speak to him

> Debitas: That's confidential

> Me: So are his whereabouts so we're at a stalemate aren't we?

> Debitas: Erm.......(hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Oh thank goodness you called

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X please?

> Me: Who is calling?

> Debitas: Debitas

> Me: Why are you calling

> Debitas: To discuss an outstanding capital one debt

> Me: Thank you for breaching the DPA - this call has been recorded

> (hangs up)

 

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X please?

> Me: Maybe

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth?

> Me: 25/12/00

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: 25/12/00 - I am Jesus

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: That's Ok, I forgive all sins

> Debitas: Is this Mr X

> Me: You are speaking to Jesus

> Debitas: Urm.....(hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Hello, Napolean Bonepart speaking

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: No, you're speaking to Napolean Bonepart

> Debitas: Is Mr X there?

> Me: Yes, he's being sedated, I am Napolean

> Debitas: Can you ask Mr X to call us

> Me: Do you speak French

> Debitas: Erm, No

> Me: pourquoi vous n'allez pas bâton votre tête vers le haut de votre

> fond (why don't you go stick your head up your bottom)

> Debitas: Sorry, I don't speak French

> Me: I AM NAPOLEAN!!

> Debitas: .... (hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Hello, Mr X speaking

> Debitas: Is that Mr X?

> Me: No, it's Mr X

> Debitas: Can you tell me your date of birth

> Me: Only if you tell me yours

> Debitas: I can see you're not willing to help yourself

> Me: Help myself to what? Are yu giving something away?

> Debitas: We'll call you back (hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Hello

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: You'll have to speak up, I lost my hearing aid

> Debitas: (shouting) Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Speaking - how can I help you

> Debitas: This is Mr Y from Debitas

> Me: Sorry - speak up

> Debitas: (shouting) This is Mr Y from Debitas, I need you to pass some

> security questions

> Me: That's nice

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth and post code?

> Me: Sorry - speak up boy!

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth and post code?

> Me: I don't really want to

> Debitas: If it makes you feel any better, these details are available

> to the public on the electoral role

> Me: Great! Why don't you confirm my details there and call me back!!

> Debitas: How is that confirming your identity?

> Me: Speak up

> Debitas: (shouting) How is that confirming your identity

> Me: I don't need to confirm my identity - I know who I am

> Debitas: Right Mr X, I assume you know what this is about, have you

> received our letters?

> Me: Oh hang on, I've just found my hearing aid

> Debitas: You are not helping yourself and you'll learn this in the

> future

> Me: Oh dear - are you gonna send the boys around?

> Debitas: A bailiff may be sent around

> Me: Oh I hope he's the rugby type - does he have a firm bum?

> Debitas: Keep your mobile on Mr X (hangs up)

 

 

 

> Me: Hello, thank you for calling Mr X, Calls may be recorded for

> quality and monitoring purposes. Please select from the following

> options to continue...

> Debitas: (silence)

> Me: Press 1 if you are a moron, Press 2 if you are cute, Press 3 if

> you'd like some money, Press 4 if you'd like to give me some money or

> press the hash key to get high

> Debitas: (a button is pressed)

> Me: (hangs up)

 

Just realised that there are stacks of these, so will leave the link for you to peruse at your leisure,:D Which emergency service do you require! Sweet:lol:

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:D

 

I love the emergency services one

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You might want to get rid of the emergency service one as it's a criminal offence to impersonate even a BT operator routing and monitoring a 999 call. I know, I was one ;)

 

The others are great though :)

 

Today I'm wearing sexy red lacy shorts :) (you may need 999 or NHS direct after reading my last paragraph )

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Today I'm wearing sexy red lacy shorts :) (you may need 999 or NHS direct after reading my last paragraph )

 

In This Weather!:shock:

 

Today I'm wearing, thermal trousers, thermal socks, thermal long sleeved top, I am 'Thermal Man'

 

Hot! Hot! Hot! :-x

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In This Weather!:shock:

 

Today I'm wearing, thermal trousers, thermal socks, thermal long sleeved top, I am 'Thermal Man'

 

Hot! Hot! Hot! :-x

 

Yeah, well I'm stuck in the house recovering from a broken leg :p

 

And wondering who's going to cook Christmas dinner :|

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Yeah, well I'm stuck in the house recovering from a broken leg :p

 

And wondering who's going to cook Christmas dinner :|

 

I'm sure you'll get plenty of volunteers to help, especially if you're going to wear the black lacy ones BB ;)

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I think I'd get guests leaving if I started parading around in those :p

"To love unconditionally is the greatest gift, laughter is a close second" .To give your time to help others after being helped here is the best way to show your appreciation to your fellow CAG members.

 

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Conversation with Bristow And Sutor this afternoon (After council took my debt back, they called me)

 

BS: Hello, could i speak to Mr XXX

Me: Who's speaking?

BS: I'm calling from Bristow Sutor

Me: Ohh you lot, what do you want?

BS: We have been informed by Amber Valley Council that they have taken your council tax debt back

Me: Yes...(Pause)...And?

BS: There is an outstanding debt to us of £84.

Me: And...?

(Pause)

BS: You are required to pay back this amount...(Pause) By law.

Me: Am I?

BS: Yes, how will you be paying the money?

Me: Erm...(Pause) I won't be.

BS: I will repeat what i have just said (Pause)

Me: Go on then.

BS: You owe us money, can i ask how you wish to repay this?

Me: As i said, i don't wish to repay anything to you.

BS: (Muffled, didn't catch this)

Me: I am just flicking through the DirectGov website, i can't see anything here that says i must pay back money. (I wasn't)

BS: A rep made three visits to your property, you were charged a levy and a walking possession charge was also applied.

Me: And... I don't have to pay this, i've cancelled the standing order, and if you carry on, you will have the courts to answer to.

BS: Sir, i understand what you are saying, but this must be paid back.

Me: I don't understand what you are saying, you are trying to f***ing rob me.

BS: If you use that kind of language i will have to terminate this call.

Me: And what will that resolve eh? Now if i want to swear because i don't agree with the b*llocks you are coming out with, i will.

BS: I must tell you that if the money isn't paid back, you will recieve a court order.

Me: Go on then.

BS: I will allow you 14 days as that is the legal amount of time you have to make an offer.

Me: I have an offer for you, i will pay you one pence, every month, for the rest of my life, out of good will.

BS: Clients are usually allowed six months to clear debts.

Me: And what is that in pounds and pence?

BS: I will just work it out. (Long Pause) As you have been repaying weekly, i have worked it out weekly, it came at around £3.50 a week, do you wish to repay £10 a week as you have been doing? Or i can offer to lower this to £5 a week.

Me: I want to pay... (Pause) Nothing.

BS: I must remind you of the...

Me: Of the what? Bull****. Now, don't f***ing mess me around, i know that once the council take the debt back, there is absolutely f**k all you can do now. So carry on...

BS: Mr XXX that claim is untrue. I am now going to terminate this call (Pause)

Me: Go on then...

BS: I will

Me: (Hung up, couldn't be bothered with the lies anymore)

 

I knew what was what, they didn't call back, they probably wont send me any mail or anything, it was all bullcrap. I can't believe it, and this is honestly true, i got most of the conversation recorded, going to take it to the council, where else shall i stick it?

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Having Fun With Debitas:

(something I found on tinters)

 

> Debitas: Hello can I speak to Mr X

> Me: You are

> Debitas: Ok, can you confirm your date of birth

> Me: Nope

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: You're forgiven

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: ...

> Debitas: I guess you know what this is about - call us back (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 2:

> Debitas: Hello can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Who?

> Debitas: Mr X

> Me: Why would you like to speak to him?

> Debitas: Sorry...?

> Me: You're forgiven

> Debitas: Is this Mr X

> Me: Oh, well why don't you tell me your name first

> Debitas: That's irrelevant

> Me: But if you want to get to know me then it's only right I get to

> know you as well

> Debitas: (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 3:

> Debitas: Hello, can I speak to Mr X

> Me: He's dead

> Debitas: Oh, can you send us a copy of the death certificate?

> Me: Nope - I don't know who you are

> Debitas: We are Debitas Legal Services part of the capital one group

> Me: And...?

> Debitas: Erm, give me a sec (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 4:

> Debitas: Hello, can I...

> Me: (interupting) I was just sleeping

> Debitas: Can I speak to...

> Me: (interupting) What, I'm going back to sleep (hangs up)

 

 

> Call 5:

> Debitas: Hello, can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Only if I can speak to Santa Claus

> Debitas: Sorry (hangs up)

 

> Me: Why hello Debitas, I was worried about you

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Where have you been, you've not called since last night

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X please

> Me: But you haven't explained why you didn't call me

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: Well it's been 12 hours since your last call

> Debitas: Are you Mr X?

> Me: What does your screen tell you?

> Debitas: I need to confirm some security questions

> Me: That's nice

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth?

> Me: Maybe - can you ask me nicely

> Debitas: I'll call you back in 20 mins (hangs up)

 

 

> Debitas: Hello, can I speak to Mr X?

> Me: Who?

> Debitas: Mr X

> Me: And why do you want to speak to him

> Debitas: That's confidential

> Me: So are his whereabouts so we're at a stalemate aren't we?

> Debitas: Erm.......(hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Oh thank goodness you called

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X please?

> Me: Who is calling?

> Debitas: Debitas

> Me: Why are you calling

> Debitas: To discuss an outstanding capital one debt

> Me: Thank you for breaching the DPA - this call has been recorded

> (hangs up)

 

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X please?

> Me: Maybe

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth?

> Me: 25/12/00

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: 25/12/00 - I am Jesus

> Debitas: Sorry

> Me: That's Ok, I forgive all sins

> Debitas: Is this Mr X

> Me: You are speaking to Jesus

> Debitas: Urm.....(hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Hello, Napolean Bonepart speaking

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: No, you're speaking to Napolean Bonepart

> Debitas: Is Mr X there?

> Me: Yes, he's being sedated, I am Napolean

> Debitas: Can you ask Mr X to call us

> Me: Do you speak French

> Debitas: Erm, No

> Me: pourquoi vous n'allez pas bâton votre tête vers le haut de votre

> fond (why don't you go stick your head up your bottom)

> Debitas: Sorry, I don't speak French

> Me: I AM NAPOLEAN!!

> Debitas: .... (hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Hello, Mr X speaking

> Debitas: Is that Mr X?

> Me: No, it's Mr X

> Debitas: Can you tell me your date of birth

> Me: Only if you tell me yours

> Debitas: I can see you're not willing to help yourself

> Me: Help myself to what? Are yu giving something away?

> Debitas: We'll call you back (hangs up)

 

 

> Me: Hello

> Debitas: Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: You'll have to speak up, I lost my hearing aid

> Debitas: (shouting) Can I speak to Mr X

> Me: Speaking - how can I help you

> Debitas: This is Mr Y from Debitas

> Me: Sorry - speak up

> Debitas: (shouting) This is Mr Y from Debitas, I need you to pass some

> security questions

> Me: That's nice

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth and post code?

> Me: Sorry - speak up boy!

> Debitas: Can you confirm your date of birth and post code?

> Me: I don't really want to

> Debitas: If it makes you feel any better, these details are available

> to the public on the electoral role

> Me: Great! Why don't you confirm my details there and call me back!!

> Debitas: How is that confirming your identity?

> Me: Speak up

> Debitas: (shouting) How is that confirming your identity

> Me: I don't need to confirm my identity - I know who I am

> Debitas: Right Mr X, I assume you know what this is about, have you

> received our letters?

> Me: Oh hang on, I've just found my hearing aid

> Debitas: You are not helping yourself and you'll learn this in the

> future

> Me: Oh dear - are you gonna send the boys around?

> Debitas: A bailiff may be sent around

> Me: Oh I hope he's the rugby type - does he have a firm bum?

> Debitas: Keep your mobile on Mr X (hangs up)

 

 

 

> Me: Hello, thank you for calling Mr X, Calls may be recorded for

> quality and monitoring purposes. Please select from the following

> options to continue...

> Debitas: (silence)

> Me: Press 1 if you are a moron, Press 2 if you are cute, Press 3 if

> you'd like some money, Press 4 if you'd like to give me some money or

> press the hash key to get high

> Debitas: (a button is pressed)

> Me: (hangs up)

 

Just realised that there are stacks of these, so will leave the link for you to peruse at your leisure,:D Which emergency service do you require! Sweet:lol:

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Hi there everyone,

 

I have been reading bits and bobs from this lovely examples of how to answer their calls.

 

To tell you the truth I have avoided these kind of things (their calls) as I have changed the number. :p

Why would i be bother to talk to the thieves when all they do is printing automated computer letters and really they wouldn't even know what is printed!

Not to mention about the law....

On one point I thought that they will reply with these kind of letters just to have free lessons from us (this site) so they do not have to pay for the training:eek:.

 

I am rather amazed of how this financial institutions are ripping us off just because they would like to apply charges whenever they feel like and how much they like.

 

Anyway, let's enjoy this Xmas to the maximum.

Have a good xmas out there everyone and good rest for the next rounds.

 

It was once said: Divide et Impera..that is what they wanted..............but we now say:

 

United Kindom it is, United we stand!

 

 

DD:cool:

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