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No offence intended ;)

 

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I have a rough idea. May be wrong though. Let's see how this turns out.

 

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Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

Don't get me confused with somebody knowledgeable by all those green blobs. I got most of them by making people laugh.

 

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just a little sidterack here about cheekiness towards a dca....

 

I have been returning some of the calls to my pet DCA recently using my skype accounts. I discovered that I could use 2 computers with 2 different accounts to ring my dca at the same time and therefore double my chances of getting through:rolleyes: I then discovered if I pugged the headphone jack of one computer into the microphone jack of the other it is possible to get 2 threat monkeys abusing each other. I then discovered that I could ring 2 different firms at the same time and the experience was even more pleasurable.

 

Do I need help?

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Do I need help?

 

Yes, but only if you intend to use a 3rd computer

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Oops! Forgot my daily knicker update...

 

Today we are wearing tight little black shorts :D

 

Is that a Royal "We" or is somebody else in there with you?

 

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I'm on my own Fred but I just fancied being a bit posh :p

 

Aahh. Well I hope it goes OK at the hospital tomorrow.

 

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I had a call from "The Telegram Office" in Glasgow, I hung up when I got a bit suspicious as they were asking for personal details, and 1471-ing it found it was Capquest. The same woman rang back a few hours later.

 

I asked if I could give her another number rather than her using this one (I could hear the excitement in her voice as she agreed to take a 2nd number) and gave her 08454 040506. She asked if it was my work number and I told her it was indeed a business number.... for the Office of Fair Trading where she could discuss her unscrupulous tactics of lying about what company she was calling from.

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I had a call from "The Telegram Office" in Glasgow, I hung up when I got a bit suspicious as they were asking for personal details, and 1471-ing it found it was Capquest. The same woman rang back a few hours later.

 

I asked if I could give her another number rather than her using this one (I could hear the excitement in her voice as she agreed to take a 2nd number) and gave her 08454 040506. She asked if it was my work number and I told her it was indeed a business number.... for the Office of Fair Trading where she could discuss her unscrupulous tactics of lying about what company she was calling from.

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That's my weekend entertainment sorted - ty

 

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just a little sidterack here about cheekiness towards a dca....

 

I have been returning some of the calls to my pet DCA recently using my skype accounts. I discovered that I could use 2 computers with 2 different accounts to ring my dca at the same time and therefore double my chances of getting through:rolleyes: I then discovered if I pugged the headphone jack of one computer into the microphone jack of the other it is possible to get 2 threat monkeys abusing each other. I then discovered that I could ring 2 different firms at the same time and the experience was even more pleasurable.

 

Do I need help?

 

 

This technique works for connecting DCA's to trading standards too:)

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They arent even in Glasgow, she obviously thought because she had a Scottish accent it was more plausible.

 

She said that she already had the number for OFT, and I replied that I can understand that she probably did, and that I daresay her company has a lot of dealings with them, then i hung up.

 

I've been looking forward to them calling all day but havent heard a thing.

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Halifax Bank Claim filed and settled

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18/06/09

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