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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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What intrigues me here is that to OP said the supposed offence occurred on a Sunday. The highway code says that a single yellow line applies for the length of the working day. Surely, Sunday is not a working day and thus the single yellow line does not apply. For a Sunday to be covered double yellow lines are needed.

 

What the Highway code actually says is..

 

 

Waiting restrictions indicated by yellow lines apply to the carriageway, pavement and verge. You may stop to load or unload (unless there are also loading restrictions as described below) or while passengers board or alight. Double yellow lines mean no waiting at any time, unless there are signs that specifically indicate seasonal restrictions. The times at which the restrictions apply for other road markings are shown on nearby plates or on entry signs to controlled parking zones. If no days are shown on the signs, the restrictions are in force every day including Sundays and Bank Holidays.

 

Single yellow lines just mean they are not all day every day, they could be Sundays only if there was a need for it.

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There are signs on entering the area. Saying Inner Controlled Zone Monday 8am to 10pm.

 

So thats sorted. But what do I do in terms of the evidence I have scanned in.? Thanks

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Well actually it was on the 6th not the 5th I made a mistake.

 

I have changed it to a personal hearing for later in May.

 

Have you read the annotations regarding the times on the PA's notes...As they say that the PA was there for 10 mins, but she wasnt there for 10 mins looking at the times...

 

Also they assumed that my informal representations were a formal reply to the NTO.

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This has dragged on for so long I've lost the plot? Where do they say the PA was there for 10 mins?

 

From where I am standing looking at whats written so far it looks like the contravention did take place and you are just grasping at straws looking for an excuse to get off. Unless you get focused the adjudicator will come to the same conclusion. You need to work out what your defence is and build on the key points to prove it, all you seem to be doing at the moment is going round in circles looking for a mistake in the LAs evidence. If you were not parked in contravention get the evidence to prove it (ie proof of loading) and if the enforcement process was incorrect sort out the documentation to prove it. Turning up and questioning the legibility of the PAs writing etc is not likely to get you off. Sorry to sound critical but its better to get holes poked in your case now than when you are at your hearing.

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Hey Green and mean

 

If you look at the previous page, the first page I scanned in from the case that the LA have presented, I have highlighted in red where they say that they permit loading/unloading for 20 minutes, and the time the PA was in the road was only 7 minutes.

 

They say that it took time to take photos and to note the tax disc number... but obviosuly she didnt take longer than 7 minutes according to her notes.

 

Also, the contravention didnt occur as you say, so I am not looking for excuses as you say. I am just trying to point out the probs here, please dont let me loose hope. lol

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Hey Green and mean

 

If you look at the previous page, the first page I scanned in from the case that the LA have presented, I have highlighted in red where they say that they permit loading/unloading for 20 minutes, and the time the PA was in the road was only 7 minutes.

 

They say that it took time to take photos and to note the tax disc number... but obviosuly she didnt take longer than 7 minutes according to her notes.

 

Also, the contravention didnt occur as you say, so I am not looking for excuses as you say. I am just trying to point out the probs here, please dont let me loose hope. lol

 

 

20 minutes is the time you are allowed to load for NOT the time you are allowed to park without being seen loading, their is a distinct difference. You are meant to be either loading or unloading the entire duration of the stay except for time to get delivery notes signed/goods checked. I've had numerous items delivered to my house from fridges and washing machines to the most recent a pallet of wood flooring that had to be off loaded by hand none of which took 20 mins. To prove the contravention did not take place you will have to provide some proof of loading.

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20 minutes is the time you are allowed to load for

 

20 minutes is the guideline time; it has no legal validity. The legal requirement is that loading/unloading (including all the 'extras') be continuous. It is not limited in law to X minutes

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20 minutes is the guideline time; it has no legal validity. The legal requirement is that loading/unloading (including all the 'extras') be continuous. It is not limited in law to X minutes

 

In London after 11 am the maximum stay for loading is 20 mins which is being or has recently been changed to 40 mins by agreement with the London Councils. This limit is (or should be) in the TMO. The only exception to this is loading bays which unless signed to the contary have no time limit to the length of stay.

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