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    • If you are flying away tomorrow (or rather this) morning I'd just forget about complaining to the police now.  As BF said earlier it's probably just a waste of your time anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.  Forget it for now.  Have a safe flight and concentrate on your other thread against Aviva.
    • I'm afraid you won't get a complaint drafted before tomorrow morning - and I think most others here think it would be a waste of time anyway and that the police decision won't change.  I would ask for a review and make a complaint on principle, but I suspect you are better off concentrating your effort on your other thread and direct complaint against Aviva.   Unless you are out of the country for an extended period I'd wait until your return before considering futrther whwther to complain about the police.   [ By the way, just so that you don't mislead yourself as it's a mistake many people make, ALL agreements are "verbal" in that they are composed of words.  Some agreements are in writing and others are oral, spoken or vocal.  The law recognises oral or spoken agreements just as much as ones that are written down.  The only practical difference is that oral agreements can be difficult to prove in a dispute]
    • Just to add there is a scheme called the Victim's Right to Review.  It basically applies to decisions made by the CPS not to go ahead with a prosecution.  It doesn't apply to decisions made by local police forces, but it does say:   19.  Decisions that are not eligible for VRR include: ... iii where the police or other investigator exercises their independent discretion not to investigate or not to investigate a case further (whether in consultation with the CPS or not) and the CPS have not been requested / have been unable to make a final decision to charge. Requests for review of such decisions should instead be addressed to the relevant police force/other investigator; [My bold] Victims' Right to Review Scheme | The Crown Prosecution Service WWW.CPS.GOV.UK   I'm not familiar with the scheme so can't advise - but other posters here may know about it or have experience of it.  You need to read the above link but note that it talks about things that seem to fit your situation.   eg a victim is defined as ‘a person who has made an allegation that they have suffered harm, including physical, mental or emotional harm or economic loss which was directly caused by criminal conduct’.   If you have not already requested that the police review their decision not to pass the case onto the CPS, then I would do so.  If you are not happy with the outcome of that, complain.   I can't advise you definitely to go ahead and ask for a review or complain, but if I were in your situation that is what I would do.  But I tend to agree with BankFodder that you'll get nowhere and, if you are sick and tired of all this and just want it to go away, then just drop the police.  However, if you don't try...   [Apologies for the italic typeface/font - it's the above link causing it.  The italics should have stopped at the end of the third para above ending ' ... criminal conduct'.  I can't change it.  Very annoying]
    • @Manxman in exile I eloped to get with my husband si my husband and siblings never sat together in the same room .   Hes claiming a verbal agreement was made but a verbal agreement doesn't hold any water in the eyes of the law..no agreement was made I was in Leeds with my toddler.    He has made use of the policy , had the luxury of the insurance and reversed the money back and now Aviva are coming after me.   You've summed it up well is there anyone in the group that can help me draft the complaint to the police as I'm flying out first thing tomorrow and my head is all over the place.   My husband me Mr z , my late father and eldest brother were at this meeting supposedly when the verbal agreement was made but yet the officer took a statement off the eldest brother and didn't take it off the husband and based the final decision on the eldest brothers statement and Mr Z and all other evidence which is in written form has been completely dismissed    I'm fighting it all alone coming from an Asian background I am getting taunts and salt is bring rubbed on my wounds its not been a pleasant experience yo say the least trying to prove my innocence and having to listen to the b******* being spouted out by everyone whilst Mr Z is walking away not guilty 
    • I would complain to the police - even if I thought it would go nowhere.  I can't see that you have anything to lose.   I can't tell you the grounds of your complaint because I don't know the details of everything that has happened (you know better than I do)  and because I've found much of the story too difficult to follow.     But - based on everything you have told us - it seems to me that your brother has clearly committed fraud by obtaining the benefit of an insurance policy by falsely misrepresenting that he was opening the policy on your behalf and also by falsely misrepresenting himself - or a third party - as being your husband.  If your brother could not have taken out that policy without making those misrepresentations, then he has committed fraud.  It doesn't matter whether the victim was Aviva or you  and it doesn't matter if the victim realises they've been defrauded or not - the police should investigate it properly.  In this case you are the ultimate victim of the fraud because Aviva are saying that you owe them for the premiums on the policy your brother fraudulently took out, so whether Aviva consider they were the victims of fraud or not is irrelevant - they don't care because you end up as the fall guy.  Point out that this may have ended in a civil dispute over a debt between you and Aviva, but that that debt directly arises as a result of your brother's fraud in claiming to be acting on your behalf and by impersonating your brother.   One of the reasons the police seem to have dropped this case (and this needs to be one of your main grounds of complaint I think) is that they have accepted without question your brother's statement that your husband was somehow involved or in some way agreed to your brother taking this policy out in your name, and the police have simply and uncritically accepted your brother's word on that without ever speaking to your husband, who would vigourously deny it.    (I can't make any better suggestion than that because, to be honest, I don't follow what has happened.  If you never authorised your brother to open this insurance policy at all then I don't understand why the police would place any importance at all on your husband being present at a meeting with your brother.  What did your husband's presence have to do with the insurance policy?  Even if he had been at such meeting (which you say he denies) then how could he authorise anything on your behalf?  None of it makes any sense to me and I can't see why the police would think it did.)   Challenge the police to explain to you why they believe there is insufficient evidence to pass this on to the CPS   I would follow the published complaints procedure of the police force in question and I would also send a copy to your local Police and Crime Commissioner.   I think the main problem here is that (despite what the nice woman PC may have suggested to you) the police have never considered you to be the victim.  You need to demonstrate to them via your complaint that you are the victim here.   One other question: is your husband and are your family supporting you through this, or are you going it alone?
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I missed the post yesterday so it will go today - I am sending it to my branch - the same as everything else. It will end up in the right place eventually, I am also enclosing a copy of my judgement confirmation.

 

I will copy and paste the letter here as soon as I get a few minutes spare, work tends to get in the way of these things!!!

 

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Magic

"The world wants to be fooled ... so fool it" - Pavel

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Hi all

 

Ok folks here is my draft, please anyone advise on the suitability of this -

 

Dear Sir/Madam

I write to inform you that due to your lack of response to my letters dated 29th June and 17th July I have been left with no option but to file for a County Court Judgement against you Ref: XXXXXXXX (copy enclosed). As you can see judgement was granted and entered against you on 22nd August, and still I have yet to hear from you.

I hereby give you 5 working days notice from the date of this letter to return the total amount owing to me of £XXXX.XX. If these funds are not returned to me in the time given then I will be left with no further choice but to issue a final warrant against you that will result in the intervention of bailiffs, and the damaging of your credit rating.

I await your reply

 

 

Yours faithfully,

Magic

Any comments welcome.

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Magic

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Thanks for posting your letter Magic. I have written one myself using yours and JamesRouses as a guide. We must be getting near the finish line now? Keep me posted.

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HSBC (2 accounts combined) - View My Thread Here

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- Prelim Sent: 29/06/2006

- LBA Sent: 13/07/2006

- MCOL Submitted: 01/08/2006

- Requested Judgement: 22/08/2006

- Default judgement issued: 22/08/2006

- WON! Money in the bank: 30/08/2006

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Barclays (Other ½'s account):

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- Statements Recieved

- Prelim sent: 21/08/2006

 

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Hi all

 

 

**********HOORAY I WIN**********

 

Just got a call from home - letter from DG Solicitors - standard rubbish about not accepting liability and due to costs etc..... etc.... They are paying the full amount to me direct into my account, today apparantly.

 

Its not there yet but at least I dont have to send the boys in.

 

Can I just thank everyone who has posted advice etc...etc... for all their help, I will be making a donation as soon as its in my account and will be sticking around to help the ones a little further behind.

 

For those of you at the same stage as me I guess you are a couple of days behind - DO NOT WORRY - this works and you will get your money.

 

Little do HSBC know they have a 2nd claim going in as soon as the first one is in my account.

 

Good luck all and thanks again.

 

Regards

 

A very very happy MAGIC

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CONGRATULATIONS! I hope I have a letter there today as well. Will keep you posted. made up for you mate!

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HSBC (2 accounts combined) - View My Thread Here

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- Prelim Sent: 29/06/2006

- LBA Sent: 13/07/2006

- MCOL Submitted: 01/08/2006

- Requested Judgement: 22/08/2006

- Default judgement issued: 22/08/2006

- WON! Money in the bank: 30/08/2006

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Barclays (Other ½'s account):

--------------------------

- Statements Recieved

- Prelim sent: 21/08/2006

 

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Magic. Got home to the same letter as you. I have finally won!!! CHEERS MATE

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HSBC (2 accounts combined) - View My Thread Here

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- Prelim Sent: 29/06/2006

- LBA Sent: 13/07/2006

- MCOL Submitted: 01/08/2006

- Requested Judgement: 22/08/2006

- Default judgement issued: 22/08/2006

- WON! Money in the bank: 30/08/2006

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Barclays (Other ½'s account):

--------------------------

- Statements Recieved

- Prelim sent: 21/08/2006

 

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DOH...and I am still waiting for the cash.....

nice one though!!

HSBC

09th June 2006 - Data Protection Act Request

21st June 2006 - Acknowledgement from HSBC

30th June 2006 - 33 letters arrive - 6yrs statements

01st July 2006 - Preliminary request for £2868.24.

12th July 2006 - HSBC offered me £1995, I declined.

17th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £2970

01st August 2006 - MCOL for £3778 (inc 8% + fees)

08th August 2006 - HSBC defending ....

31st August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - Wooooooohoooooo.

Halifax

09th June 2006- Data Protection Act Request

22nd June 2006 - Acknowledgement from Halifax

08th July 2006 6yrs statements arrive.

10th July 2006 - Preliminary request for £1393.08.

21st July 2006 - Halifax offered £115, I declined..

24th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £1421.

08th August 2006 - MCOL for £1822 (inc 8% and fees)

16th August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - woooohoooo

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hi i have just got my letter from hsbc in regards to my clame for charges but thay have only oferd £1701 insted of £2633 i put in for,thay have not includid the intrest can i clame it davacas

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Hi all

 

Can one of the mods tell me how to make a donation - as when I click the button at the top of the page it goes to paypal but there is no info in the - 'make payment to' box, i think that there should be an e-mail address or something.

 

Also can one of the mods change my title to ***WON*** please.

 

Thanks

 

Magic

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hi i have just got my letter from hsbc in regards to my clame for charges but thay have only oferd £1701 insted of £2633 i put in for,thay have not includid the intrest can i clame it davacas

 

Just ignore it and continue... or add to your next letter..." As regards to your offer of XXX in letter dated XXX, I accept this as partial payment only and will be continuing with my original timescale for the remainder...

HSBC

09th June 2006 - Data Protection Act Request

21st June 2006 - Acknowledgement from HSBC

30th June 2006 - 33 letters arrive - 6yrs statements

01st July 2006 - Preliminary request for £2868.24.

12th July 2006 - HSBC offered me £1995, I declined.

17th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £2970

01st August 2006 - MCOL for £3778 (inc 8% + fees)

08th August 2006 - HSBC defending ....

31st August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - Wooooooohoooooo.

Halifax

09th June 2006- Data Protection Act Request

22nd June 2006 - Acknowledgement from Halifax

08th July 2006 6yrs statements arrive.

10th July 2006 - Preliminary request for £1393.08.

21st July 2006 - Halifax offered £115, I declined..

24th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £1421.

08th August 2006 - MCOL for £1822 (inc 8% and fees)

16th August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - woooohoooo

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Can one of the mods tell me how to make a donation - as when I click the button at the top of the page it goes to paypal but there is no info in the - 'make payment to' box, i think that there should be an e-mail address or something.

 

 

Hi magic, I took ages trying to find this... on the main page, or when you filkl in the survey, there is a button to the right of your screen that says donate... or make donation...that takes you to paypal, but with Consumer action group details already in place, you just add your paypal details and amount you want to donate..

HSBC

09th June 2006 - Data Protection Act Request

21st June 2006 - Acknowledgement from HSBC

30th June 2006 - 33 letters arrive - 6yrs statements

01st July 2006 - Preliminary request for £2868.24.

12th July 2006 - HSBC offered me £1995, I declined.

17th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £2970

01st August 2006 - MCOL for £3778 (inc 8% + fees)

08th August 2006 - HSBC defending ....

31st August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - Wooooooohoooooo.

Halifax

09th June 2006- Data Protection Act Request

22nd June 2006 - Acknowledgement from Halifax

08th July 2006 6yrs statements arrive.

10th July 2006 - Preliminary request for £1393.08.

21st July 2006 - Halifax offered £115, I declined..

24th July 2006 - LBA sent, now £1421.

08th August 2006 - MCOL for £1822 (inc 8% and fees)

16th August 2006 - SETTLED IN FULL - woooohoooo

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