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Hello to everyone,

 

I wish that I joined this group before giving my money away to Equita!

 

First letter from Equita received on the 20th Nov-07 (dated 12th) for £183.99 (Unpaid Penalty Charge Notice).

I called Equita on the 30th Nov and they gave me the Bailifs number as the debt was forwarded to the Bailif - Mr Brown.

 

Mr Brown said he had been around looking for teh car a week earlier - which is a lie, the car has not been moved for at least two weeks.

He also agreed that I would pay half by 4th Dec and the other half by the end of that week. He had come round this morning and clamped the car while my pregnat wife and 1 year old doughter were outside teh house.

After a long dispute with him over teh phone I had to pay £535 or he will take the car.

 

There is no justification for the amount of £535 - What are the Do's and Don'ts of complaining to Equita initially?

 

Thanks

Abi

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DO put everything in writing.

 

DO send off for a subject access request.

 

DO NOT speak to them via the phone.

 

DO NOT accept their excuses for extortion in fees.

 

First - send a Subject Access Request - you then know what you are challenging.

 

 

like i said pm tomtubby with the same question and at least your will be sure that somebody you are talking to somebody who is not drowning their sorrow with antidepressants.

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First letter from Equita received on the 20th Nov-07 (dated 12th) for £183.99 (Unpaid Penalty Charge Notice).

I called Equita on the 30th Nov and they gave me the Bailifs number as the debt was forwarded to the Bailif - Mr Brown.

 

Mr Brown said he had been around looking for teh car a week earlier - which is a lie, the car has not been moved for at least two weeks.

He also agreed that I would pay half by 4th Dec and the other half by the end of that week. He had come round this morning and clamped the car while my pregnat wife and 1 year old doughter were outside teh house.

After a long dispute with him over teh phone I had to pay £535 or he will take the car.

 

There is no justification for the amount of £535 - What are the Do's and Don'ts of complaining to Equita initially?

 

Thanks

Abi

 

Can you let me know what council the parking fine is with as it seems the fine is £125?

 

Did the bailiff post the letter or was it postmarked on the envelope? This is important!

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ChloeJane - I made the payment yesterday, so I will send the Subject Access Request today, I spoke to them once and they gave me the Bailiffs number and hanged up the phone on me while I was asking them questions - thanks

 

PizzaMaker - here is the sequence of events:

1. Newham Council issued the ticket £40, I disputed and it was passed on to the Parking Adjudicators, my case was declined (ticket is £80).

2. I did not receive the confirmation from the Parking Adjudicator and requested a Statutory Deleration - Unpaid Penalty charge from Northampton Court, I did not return this within the time limit and my debt was passed on to the Bailiffs.

3. The Equita Bailifs letter was posted as normal but I did not keep the envelope! I spoke to the bailiff last Friday and he said that he has been around already and could not find the car - this is a lie.

The cost on the only letter of communication I had from them is £183

4.The only other time he came around was yesterday when he clamped my car front of my pregnant wife and 2 year old doughter - I had to pay £535 or he would take the car.

5. When I asked for breakdown he could not give me an answer.

 

Thanks for your help

Abi

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Like i have previously said chloe jane does not know what she is talking about when it comes to bailiffs. She is being persued by a major bailiff company for reasons known to herself. If she knew what bailiffs did and how they worked she would have sorted her own little battle out before giving out advice to other people. i would strongly advise in avoiding chloe jane until she has come of her anti d's and has won her case. I would pm tomtubby and ask for advice. Unlike chloe jane tomtubby is not on anti d's and runs a successful website specifically advising about bailiffs. Unless of course chloejane has scared off tomtubby because of her outrageous go at her over the week end.

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